I see Spook is still addicted to being wrong.
Also @WaretaGarasu and Mobius, we don’t know the difference between the Leclerc & Strv 122 report because Gaijin allows people to hide documents from the general public.
He’s not the one addicted to being wrong.
Wareta is the one responsible for both reports, so he most definitely knows the difference… 🙄
How is that hard?
On one hand: Community Bug Reporting System
Showed that GALIX has been used on the STRV122, showed GALIX does have an LWS Receiver and you know what was asked? Where the sensor was, completly fair and understandable.
On the other hand: Community Bug Reporting System
Showed that the Leclerc does have an LWS ( GALIX is made by Lacroix which is a French company which also work with NEXTER, another company that helps with the production of Leclerc and modifications ). Asked for more source on GALIX, a French System that i think everyone knows is used on Leclercs, i provided a XLR brochure and im sure that won’t be enough anyway.
@Mobius_Einherjar and me showed where the LWS sensor is on the AZUR and the response was “we cannot accept only images for the functionality of a vehicle in the game.”.
So what an LWS sensor has been doing on a Leclerc if its not being used???
Then
“We at least need documentation on the use of GALIX on the Leclerc series, additionally for AZUR.”
Keep in mind that AZUR is just an uparmored S2 for the most part.
That was my response.
Hi.
“Lacroix , in collaboration with Nexter, developed Galix” that implies it has been made with Nexter, company that AZUR, XLR and Clara and many other parte used by Leclercs.
A link that shows the functionalities of GALIX, on one of the photos you can clearly see a Leclerc XLR has been used, RE: “GALIX Passive Self-Defence System used, e.g. in case of the Leclerc tank” which next to also explains the system is used on other vehicle that are also stated on Lacroix Website, the producer of GALIX.
Remember that thing link is shared by Lacroix itself and it can be seen on this link if you scroll enough: Lacroix Defense - Land Solutions - Soft-Kill Self Protection
http://www.maquetland.com/article-phototheque/154-leclerc-azur
“After studying these various operations the French have moficated the Leclerc for its urban warfare, and was born on Leclerc Azur”
That states and implies AZUR is just a modified Leclerc ( an S2 for being clear, this can clearly be seen for the lack of the new CITV or armor array that are the Leclerc S3 or the presence of the AC unit which was lacking on the S1. So this is definitivaly a modified Leclerc S2.
In addition to this, i will also attach a brochure for the Leclerc XLR that can be found here: OUR PRODUCTS | Knds
This states GALIX has been used, XLR is a heavy upgrade package, not a minor one like AZUR. ( AZUR has been made by Nexter as well ).
Also from nexter website in 2007: NEXTER - L'Arme blindée – génie
" La première concrétisation de cette réflexion a été la réalisation en 2006 d’un démonstrateur appelé kit AZUR®, composé d’un ensemble de modules amovibles rapportés sur un char Leclerc de série. Ce démonstrateur a été présenté avec succès lors du salon Eurosatory. Il est en évaluation à Sissonne du 27 novembre au 8 décembre 2006."
As being stated previously, Nexter is the producer of AZUR and it states AZUR was used on a base Leclerc.
A video that also show the use of GALIX and the vehicle used is a Leclerc: https://youtu.be/wakkjqC2ImE?si=2M8G4d2oEdocZpho
Hope that would be enough.
XLR Brochure for you
xlr brochure.rar (3.0 MB)
I think that states pretty clearly GALIX has been used, multiple article from the producer website (LACROIX) even states that.
I can bet on the fact its gonna be refused anyway, tell me why.
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Can you explain me this sentence?
The documents you could’ve provided that we cannot see may share different information.
On top of that, David Bowie is among the most veteran reports moderators.
& both are still at info-requested.
I think you’re not getting the point, David Bowie was super chill for the report, like as you should. On the other way the other employe is pretty much not but you do you, thats what me and @Mobius_Einherjar are saying ( i attached on your reply the leclerc xlr brochure btw so you can see it )
Unfortunately that not said
- “the Galix inclue a LWS/LWR”
but
- “The Galix CAN BE COUPLED to a LWS present on the vehicle”
Also this video doesn’t seem to show a Leclerc at all.
Either way i got a reply on the report, lets see how it goes: Community Bug Reporting System
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At least that will give us more time to get even more informations, instead of the 48h deadline
https://twitter.com/armeedeterre/status/1650160099313295361
look at this video
The turret rotation speed in the video is much faster than in game.
starting at 0 : 27
Another video confirms that it’s even faster than it is now
starting at 14 : 51
Of course it is, but they won’t accept a video as a source thats why nobody tried to bug report it anymore…
That Twitter video was ~1 second, and turret when from over rear corner to centered.
AFAIK that can be ~26 degrees or less.
And the video documentary showed 4 seconds of traverse.
4 seconds in WT is 26x4, so around 104 degrees.
That documentary looks to be about 104 degrees traversed.
We know from the leak speed is correct in game
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Gaijin Please don’t leak stuff
Also gaijin: provide documentation for the armor composition of the Leclerc to prove it’s more than 400mm thick and the same for the lws
Pictures or Logic or balance aren’t accepted
Partially yes but in some cases also no. Ariete for example is also missing it’s full composite in the hull. The UFP is just spaced armor. At some points it feels like Gaijin just doesn’t want things to be correct
The difference is that Ariete Armor is bad even IRL, a fix would add 100-150mm but it wouldn’t change much. While wonder why every upgrade package proposed to Leclerc, even Swedish or Turkish hasn’t proposed a single hull upgrade because the protection seemed good enough.
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Exactly my words. Especially when looking at Sweden with their STRV 122 that got more composite onto the frontal hull. However having 100-150mm more upper frontal armor would make a difference to things like HSVT-L or 2S38s APFSDS
Either way, i hope they will make some changes and if the bug report about AZUR LWS is gonna get rejected again im not going to continue again after sources and pages i feel like its not worth it