There’s absolutely no reason to have two ambiant sensors. Also, hard disagree on it looking nothing like a LWS:
You can clearly see at least 3 receivers on the upper ring.
In that case if you look at the one in game its not modeled correctly then because in game its modeled as a probe finded on the ariete so it needs to be remodelled
Here is how it looks in game
In the case you are right it means that every leclerc supports it since the probe its the same and has not been changed which means every leclerc should have lws
Correct me if im wrong
You need to read my posts better. I said before that the probe at the rear of the turret is the wind and pressure sensor, it is found on every Leclerc.
The probe that’s present only on the AZUR near the commander’s hatch is the LWS.
Readed better, sorry
In that case i think we can for sure get lws added to the azur. Do we have a source that galix has been used on the azur? ( we know it is but i would like to get a writted sourse or anything ). ( look at the bug report )
Not sure abot the Galix integration, but I added all the pictures posted above in the bug report. Hopefully it’ll help.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/2QPU8eJZaDIP
Updated, Leclerc S2 use GALIX made by Lacroix and the first iteration of AZUR should be based on the Leclerc S2 so i think what i writed should be reasonable but if someone does have a source that clearly states that it would be better. Although AZUR is an armor kit so most of the thing of the S2 are kept, so i think that is more than enough. What do you think?
Poking around on the Lacroix site, I found this:
For the others, here is the translation:
Multi-band masking - Protective ammunition
Vehicle masking with an opacifying effect, effective in the visible and infrared ranges (thermal cameras, lasers, missile homing heads…).
Important points to remember >
visible and infrared fields (thermal cameras, lasers, missile seekers…).
Is he referring to the LWS?
There is also this, which I think confirms the LWS:
Trad >
For combat vehicles, in the event of an immediate threat that leaves no time for personnel to act, a fully automated version is offered thanks to sensors distributed across the platform, including laser warning sensors.
EDIT : On the same site I also find this:
GALIX has been selected by Sweden and installed on the Stridsvagn 122 main battle tank (a derivative of the Leopard 2 platform) and CV 90 VBCIs. GALIX launchers also equip the wheeled Centauro 8x8 and Ariete tanks. The BMP3, G6, M113 and M109 have been updated to accommodate GALIX, and the latter has been installed on new models of RG 31 and NIMR vehicles in the UAE.
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Yes, i made a report about them too.
This is a leclerc post so lets keep the topic if possible. Those are the two lws leclerc issues active right now
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/2QPU8eJZaDIP
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1lM5qQsDJv56
Update @Mobius_Einherjar got a reply
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/2QPU8eJZaDIP
"Unfortunately, we cannot accept only images for the functionality of a vehicle in the game. Images can be used in case of a visual model issue or similar.
We at least need documentation on the use of GALIX on the Leclerc series, additionally for AZUR.
The report will be closed in 48H unless the required information is provided. If new material is found, a new report should be opened."
What does it even means? Galix is obvious used by leclercs and azur is not a standalone vehicle but its a leclerc s2 base.
Someone can help me give a reply because right now i don’t know what to say if not even the producer of galix, lacroix website is enough, even a minimal documentation that state the use of galix on leclercs should be enough.
There seem to be two types of laser receivers.
The kind seen on Type 10 scattered around the turret.
And the kind seen on Ariete & Italy’s Leopard 1A5, the pole that looks like the air speed tube on modern MBTs for FCS calculations.
From the images shown thus far of Leclerc, there’s a mix of both, there’s even an image of what looks liked a moved air speed tube, and it’s impossible to tell which Leclerc is which variant, or even if they’re production or testing.
I dont know a lot about this stuff but arent those sensors part of the MILES system?
Azur does have a standalone lws receiver which is on the left of the commander sight and lacroix ( manufacter of galix, used by leclercs ) that galix provide a lws system
from this link : Lacroix Defense - Land Solutions - Soft-Kill Self Protection
I can read that Galix can provide LWS slaved smoke screens, but also stand alone smoke screen, deployed manually, at up to 24 smoke launchers. That does sound a lot like what the Leclercs are using. Are. you certain that possessing a Galix system is confirmation of the early leclercs (until S3) having these systems ?
Edit : I see that for a 24 system it is automatic, never mind
From NEXTER’s website in 2007:
“Preparing for the future
The process of ensuring the operational readiness of the Leclerc system continued in 2006. The aim is to equip the tank with additional capabilities to enable it to carry out specific missions, particularly in urban areas, and to integrate new battlefield digitisation concepts such as the BOA. The first concrete result of this thinking was the production in 2006 of a demonstrator called the AZUR® kit, consisting of a set of removable modules fitted to a production Leclerc tank. This demonstrator was successfully presented at Eurosatory. It is being evaluated at Sissonne from 27 November to 8 December 2006.”
Right now we are talking about the azur kit which as @Mobius_Einherjar showed have a lws probe which was accepted.
What the employe is asking right now is a proof that Galix was used on Leclercs. Someone have a brochure of it ( preferably s2 ) i have one about the xlr but i think they won’t accept it because its not talking about leclerc s1,s2,s3
Sorry, I was under the impression that the LWS shown on the picture was that of an S3. But indeed, while we can easily find sources for its presence on the XLR, I struggle to find the mention of a LWS on the S1, S2 or AZUR. Granted, I only have access to the informations on internet, but I hope someone else might have some. Problem is that 48h is quite a short time to find definite answers
Can you help me find a brochure showing that the leclerc s2 used the Galix System?
That should be enough for the azur report
So if I understood things correctly, according to this website :
If the Leclerc has more than 8 smoke launchers (which it does), and the smoke system is a Galix, then it must be an automated one with LWS ?
Then we just need to find a primary source stating that the AZUR modification possess a Galix system, thus it has a LWS ?
I am currently scrapping Lacroix’s website searching for any mention on the different variants of the Leclerc it is equipped, but for now I only see “Leclerc”, with no additional informations on the variant. I hope someone has some physical documents that could be shared
Nexter stated that the AZUR kit was demonstrated on a production Leclerc. If the Leclercs all have Galix, that’s enough proof imo.