I absolutely agree, any stuff wrong about the armor should have been corrected yesterday. However the Leclerc will always remain more squishy than a bunch of the other MBTs, which is why I disagreed with the other person that the new round would be worthless and that making it more tanky should be the priority. More pen also means better spalling after all.
All leclercs should receive a model overhaul and have their armor issues fixed. The AZUR and SXXI should receive a better dart while the S1 and S2 should be fine with a BR reduction.
That we had to rant for the Leclerc to get its 5 second reload when the Abram’s originally got it (it was already better than the Leclerc overall) was basically the end of bug reporting ground vehicles for me.
Do we know if the sights of the gunner of the Leclerc being part of the FCS is a bug ? AFAIK, it’s the only vehicle modeled this way rn (not that I’ve played above 10.0 in a while).
Also, I hate how some systems are treated differently on certain vehicles. The batteries on the EBRC jaguar currently also control the FCS. Lose them and you can’t turn the turret, can shoot… nada.
But on a t90m, that’s no problem apparently.
I don’t know which vehicle have this issue, which don’t, because it’s all apparently dependent on how the devs decided to configure each vehicles.
Truly, adding detailed module in such a disparate manner was a D move from the devs
the real solution to this problem would be to get all the gb, japanese, italian, french and israel players to start playing like they lack at least 3 of their 7 senses, played the map for the first time and in general dont know what to to at what point of the match, which vehicle to spawn when the team gets taken apart by cas or where and when to shoot enemy tanks. This is my call to all start playing like lvl 7 clickbait enjoyers for a month.
But that wont happen, y’all just too good at the game and thus we are…suffering from success
Pretty sure it’s just because the jaguar is a light vehicle, modules like FCS affect more vital things on light tanks because they don’t want them to soak up shots
Can anyone confirm that this happen for other high tier light vehicles ? I don’t have any non French light vehicles above 10.0. And it sure as hell doesn’t do that for those 10.0 vehicles I own.
This would also beg the question as to why this doesn’t happen to the BMPT which is infamous for soaking up shots.
I’m okay with modules creating spalling on light tanks, but having them being completely disabled when shot at almost anywhere, even from a 12.7mm machine gun is annoying, especially since the Jaguar should resist this caliber all around (and obviously doesn’t)
Actually it will up to certain point and with SXXI titanium reinforced armor it will become just better.
People ignores this but actual problem lies itself with the addition of FCS, you can basically disable Leclerc’s FCS by simply shooting its gunner optic even with 50cal, to think this tank became so miserable due to poor modelling blows me actually.
In that regard i wanna point out the firepower is a complained since quite a while.
The DU version would make no difference pretty much and people asked since years for SHARD,
When it just recently finished development and likely is in approval steps?
The next issue is , there is actualy no real information about its performance, beyond % statements years ago fired with l/55 long cannon.
The official knds site lists for the whole round
Round mass 22kg round length 984mm
1.720m/ms 4km range.
Which is not enough for gajin.
They want a clear penetration number stated at least, if the penetrator data isnt known.
Generaly i understand the want for a better round, but the playerbase seems to have the wrong expectations.
Its more likely for gajin to give the leclerc DM53, they handing it out like candy either way to nations that never operated them
From rounds and stuff that actualy are supposed to get finished etc , yes stooped them most of the time.
And yet again, there was /is no real information to the round. Even more so years ago when people already requested it
This is FCS. I’m specifically tallking about the batteries here. But yeah, FCS also is very one sided with some vehicles havign their firing abilities disable while others don’t
It would be very helpful to roll back the changes to the FCS system and reimplement it.
The Leclerc has indeed been treated differently - it’s the only vehicle I know of where the FCS system can be disabled so easily. After watching a few test videos, I don’t intend to play with this.
This is one thing. Next.
Survivability doesn’t necessarily mean vastly stronger frontal armor as a well-aimed shot doesn’t require 600 mm of pen to take out a target, and the fact is, a change like that wouldn’t make a difference.
But removing weak spots and making slight reinforcements - absolutely.
It’s just like the Abrams buff - the truth is that extra armor on the turret or the LFP doesn’t change much.
What matters is that the turret ring was changed to a volumetric one.
So it’s not lol-penned that easily by 30mm autocannons now.
Most top-tier MBTs will defeat their counterparts with ease so in this case, firepower and mobility actually outweigh armor. The problem is the autocannon meta, which can tear NATO tanks to shreds in a head-on clash - where after the patch the HSTV-L has more trouble penetrating the BVM and T-90M from the side due to the ERA buff. It’s game of luck basically.
That’s the reality Leclerc has to deal with, and he suffers from it more than other MBTs, which is fcking frustrating since his players have spent hundreds of hours grinding the tech tree.
