Its the most armored Top tier Russian tank and has much better protection and survivability than any other Russian high tier MBT, dont know what you’re smoking.
The claim was T-90M is sitting in hulldown position while bein covered by bushes against a Leclerc that is exposed.
In that case T-90M is very survivable. Also you dont one shot T-Series through driver port every single time, stop making false claims.
It is because T-90M can simply aim generally towards Leclerc and one shot it while Leclerc has to spend decent amount of time to aim due to hulldown and bush disadvantages.
what is a decent amoutn of time for you? cause I seriously reckon I nor you would lose in most those situations.
what are you on about making false claims? I never said you one shot a T series through the drivers port.
I said it’s a last resort AKA it’s the last place you should be shooting at on a T series due to how easy it is to bugger the shot up or get gaijined by the volumetrics of it.
I said shoot the damn turret roof , specifically I’ll add if you shoot the T90M in the roof it’ll kill at least one turret crew, aim to the right to get the gunner, as well as disables the auto loader / breach the majority of the time.
It has better survivability cause the spall liner but the actual armour last I checked was worse than the BVM on the front, both UFP are never a penetrating shot though.
It’s not even in your top 15 russian used vehicles man, between rank 7 and 8 lol
T-90M would only need one second to kill Leclerc in that situation due to how weak Leclerc armor is while Leclerc players has to spend at least couple seconds to identfiy bushed T-90M’s weakspots that sits in hulldown position.
Besides this is not something special to T-90M, any tank that has decent armor will give you the same result.
How do you plan on taking out T-90M that is bushed completely while sitting in hulldown position? You either target towards to driver port or gun breach area which both of them are gamble in that case.
Its hull armor provides same protection because you will not be able to bypass Relıkt Era while T-90M also enjoys having more armored/covered turret while also having external fuel tanks and additional ammo stowage back on the turret that doesnt explode.
And? This doesn’t change the fact that it’s my regular choice whenever I play with my Russian Line-up these days which proves my point.
Also trying to state shame at this point its pretty pointless. I do have T-90M and I know its weaknesses and its strength which was your main point to debunk me.
A couple seconds to identify a bushed up T90M’s weakpoints? really?
That’s exactly my point, these situations aren’t dependant on the tanks.
You could put a bushed up Leopard 2PL VS an abrams or T90M, or VT4A1 in the exact same scenario and it’ll come down purely to player reaction times.
I’ve out gunned plenty folks sitting in wait.
Hell you can clikc before passing the corner and it’ll hit em.
Shoot the top of the turret breach it and push it.
Not gonna lie you put something which is considered worse in that T90Ms position and I’m more likely to lose.
2A6, 2PL, a damn ZTZ99A and i’m more likely to die to them than a 90M.
The additional ammo stowage on the turret isn’t really relevant for surviveability though is it.
Why would I try stat shame you? I’m not saying if you’re good or bad with it, just the frequency of use.
Stop shooting ERA , Period, shoot below it or behind it. that should be common knowledge for almost any MBT at these BRs.
what?
It has armour that is it.
It’s round is middling, it’s mobility is middling, it’s reverse is horrific.
It’s reloads substantially worse than every nato tank bar the standard leopard 2 reload.
T90M is extremely mid.
My experience the reason it does well is cause so many melts shoot the UFP and expect it to slice through it.
Ragebaiter among those 5-6 constant guys defending Russia at all costs on that forum.
It’s a thread stating Leclerc is poop (which it is, and even more now with the turret basket and all), and bro is commenting it’s very good and Russia suffers, once again
Because I disagree with you? Not rage baiting at all.
Leclerc is not bad mate, the turret basket additions were stupid AF:
You’ve got a major victim complex with the tanks which you use man. The russian MBTs are not OP at all, they are pretty mid which is something most folks agree on.
Their CAS and ofc this ridiculous addition of hte BMPT is what makes them strong.
The best MBTs in the game haven’t been russian for a very long time.
Nah cause I proved you wrong and you just said “I’m not reading that” now constantly insist on pushing lies about what vehicles I play.
The Leclerc is a decent tank bar the addition of the turret baskets.
It’s armours not the worst, not the best, good mobility and a good reload.
No one said russia suffers, just that You’ve a mindless obsession with spreading false facts about russian tanks to make them seem OP as hell when they aren’t.
I would say they are not OP but rather mid too, the main sources of “russian bias” is their CAS, SPAA and their IFVs (BMPT, BMD, etc) But tbh, I can understand them because of Relikt and Kontakt-5 seem to be too… bugged? There are to many moments of them tanking shells like they eat them on breakfast. And, yeah, the whole game is bugged, but this is something that is really strange for me. Also, there were lots, like, actually a lot of times when I shoot at LFP and my shell just disapiered… I don’t know, it doesn’t seem as skill issue from my perspective.
But still, with all this staff, I would still prefer Leclercs, Leos or Abrams tanks over russian ones
eh their SPAA after the patch which introduced multiple vehicle SPAAs fell off a cliff in effectiveness.
Though teh new pantsir is pretty decent at shooting down munitions I personally haven’t seen it do enough to say it’s OP outside of the aformentioned point on munitions.
The CAS though as well as the malarkey with the BMPTs is just a pain.
the BMD I’ve struggled with but the BMPT is just a pain in the butt. Which is not a skill issue as some say they genuinely just do not take damage, fired a DCT 10 clean through ones engine deck earlier and the engine stopped the whole round.
A 125MM top tier dart.
Those same thing happen with overlapping layers or shot traps on other MBTs, ERA on nato tanks while nowhere near as effective still causes some weird Sh*t to happen every now n then.
How do you mean disappeared? the russian MBTs it goes two ways either the tank turns into a spacecraft or the round passes under the auto loader, if you hit it and it hits modules then it’s not disappearing.
The main killer for russian MBTs has and always will be reload rate + mobility issues.
The BVM is more mobile than the 90M for example but still has a 6.4 second reload, the 90M has armour but no mobility especially backwards + a 7 second reload.
I would prefer my leclercs without these poorly implemented turret baskets.
Let me rephrase that “The main killer for Russian MBTs has always been somehow not killing the other guy with the first shot despite being completely armored while the other guy is either half or completely naked”
Yeah buddy, if you somehow don’t kill the other guy even though you only have to click on basically anywhere on him while he has to aim for your tiny lower plate (and still not being sure you won’t survive the ammorack one way or the other), that sounds more like a skill issue than a reload issue lmao
again if you think 1 that russian tanks have a “tiny” lower plate it shows, also as do your stats lol. you’re nearly 2.0KD in every nato vehicle at rank 7 and up but negative in every russian one? , well the french ones you’ve used.
It makes zero sense at all, to act as if they’re some OP nonsense then be bad with them.
The russian MBTs reload, mobility and survivability is beyond horrific.
You can’t understand how my Russian vehicles, which have not all the modifications, and for many, not even APFSDS unlocked, have worse performances that my Aced vehicles ?
Russia players are something else? You pay pretty much exclusively France, I’ve almost every tree at top tier now.
I’ve thousands of top tier battles spread throughout the trees.
How can you not understand that if Russian vehicles are so over powered that your own stats would reflect that, with or without being spaded and aced.
That’s a copout argument from someone who’s own performance contradicts what they want to paint.
The Leclercs didn’t need the turret basket addition before getting correct armour implementations, but they are in fact better vehicles than the Russian MBTs.