Yeah. They got DM53 back when they were somehow sitting at the same BR as the 2A7s and 122s lmao.
Now, they are at a relatively comfortable position at 11.7… so I fear Gaijin may intend to raise their BR “because of DM53” instead of just removing DM53, giving it its historical CL3143, and keeping it at 11.7 IF NOT even placing them at 11.3.
Leclerc : faces T-90M in an urban corridor, LFP hidden in the debris, driver’s port hidden by tons of bushes
J-out
Leclerc in that situation wins most times mate TBH.
T90M is one of the worst examples you could of used compared to say a BVM, M1A2, LEOPARD 2A7
I genuinely would prefer that man if it lost the DM53 they’d be at a more respectable BR.
Irregardless of that I am now starting my grind towards them again, 9.3
Leclerc easily looses to T-90M in that situation.
Bein covered by bushes while hiding your LFP is basically bein equal to invincible in T-90M, meanwhile Leclerc is walking weakspot that can be one shot even by M18.
Granted its a very optimistic scenario for T-90M but claiming Leclerc will still win in that situation is completely wrong.
Faced this exact situation yesterday in my SXXI - I lost while bouncing off his front plate…Le sigh
sorry what? have you ever used the T90M or fought against it properly? It’s by far the easier of the top tier russian MBTs to take out.
As well as that, shoot the breach, the damn drivers port should always be a last resort for killing any T series tank
Not completely wrong at all. As well as what you also said, teh scenario is extremely unlikely anyways.
So a pointless comment.
Like saying if you come across a jagdtiger in an ally way with no way back, a 76MM gun, and can’t see it’s weakpoints just J out.
No Sh*t it’ll win but what’s the point in saying a comment like that.
on the topic of the leclercs but these turret baskets are a nightmare in them, genuinely had them taken out by folks gunning into my side with .50 cal on the M1A2.
why not shoot the turret top? you cannot tell me you cannot work out the general shape of the tank once you’ve made it to these BRs?
where do you get the time in a split second with a t90 barreling towards you at full speed to instantly aim for a spot covered in bushes and hope it happens to goes through the one turret weakspot, whereas he just half ass aims in your general direction and goes through your armor like a knife through butter - go away with your fantasies
Lmao.
I do have T-90M and I regularly play with it.
Its the most armored Top tier Russian tank and has much better protection and survivability than any other Russian high tier MBT, dont know what you’re smoking.
The claim was T-90M is sitting in hulldown position while bein covered by bushes against a Leclerc that is exposed.
In that case T-90M is very survivable. Also you dont one shot T-Series through driver port every single time, stop making false claims.
It is because T-90M can simply aim generally towards Leclerc and one shot it while Leclerc has to spend decent amount of time to aim due to hulldown and bush disadvantages.
what is a decent amoutn of time for you? cause I seriously reckon I nor you would lose in most those situations.
what are you on about making false claims? I never said you one shot a T series through the drivers port.
I said it’s a last resort AKA it’s the last place you should be shooting at on a T series due to how easy it is to bugger the shot up or get gaijined by the volumetrics of it.
I said shoot the damn turret roof , specifically I’ll add if you shoot the T90M in the roof it’ll kill at least one turret crew, aim to the right to get the gunner, as well as disables the auto loader / breach the majority of the time.
It has better survivability cause the spall liner but the actual armour last I checked was worse than the BVM on the front, both UFP are never a penetrating shot though.
It’s not even in your top 15 russian used vehicles man, between rank 7 and 8 lol
T-90M would only need one second to kill Leclerc in that situation due to how weak Leclerc armor is while Leclerc players has to spend at least couple seconds to identfiy bushed T-90M’s weakspots that sits in hulldown position.
Besides this is not something special to T-90M, any tank that has decent armor will give you the same result.
How do you plan on taking out T-90M that is bushed completely while sitting in hulldown position? You either target towards to driver port or gun breach area which both of them are gamble in that case.
Its hull armor provides same protection because you will not be able to bypass Relıkt Era while T-90M also enjoys having more armored/covered turret while also having external fuel tanks and additional ammo stowage back on the turret that doesnt explode.
And? This doesn’t change the fact that it’s my regular choice whenever I play with my Russian Line-up these days which proves my point.
Also trying to state shame at this point its pretty pointless. I do have T-90M and I know its weaknesses and its strength which was your main point to debunk me.
This.
Leclerc is a paper on tracks.
Today, I shot the front side of a russian MBT with a Leclerc dart, and the ERAs literally ate the shell (no pen, in was a 90 degrees shot). Shocking
Exactly.
The game is UNBALANCED, T-90M basically has everything equal to regular NATO MBTs, except it cannot be pened as easy as them
A couple seconds to identify a bushed up T90M’s weakpoints? really?
That’s exactly my point, these situations aren’t dependant on the tanks.
You could put a bushed up Leopard 2PL VS an abrams or T90M, or VT4A1 in the exact same scenario and it’ll come down purely to player reaction times.
I’ve out gunned plenty folks sitting in wait.
Hell you can clikc before passing the corner and it’ll hit em.
Shoot the top of the turret breach it and push it.
Not gonna lie you put something which is considered worse in that T90Ms position and I’m more likely to lose.
2A6, 2PL, a damn ZTZ99A and i’m more likely to die to them than a 90M.
The additional ammo stowage on the turret isn’t really relevant for surviveability though is it.
Why would I try stat shame you? I’m not saying if you’re good or bad with it, just the frequency of use.
Stop shooting ERA , Period, shoot below it or behind it. that should be common knowledge for almost any MBT at these BRs.
what?
It has armour that is it.
It’s round is middling, it’s mobility is middling, it’s reverse is horrific.
It’s reloads substantially worse than every nato tank bar the standard leopard 2 reload.
T90M is extremely mid.
My experience the reason it does well is cause so many melts shoot the UFP and expect it to slice through it.
Their original shell was the best before they added DM-53 and changed the penetration calculator.
Which shocking made them balanced…Kind of glass cannon terrible armour good mobility great fire power.
The DM53 was added as a gimme as they had literally nothing going for them to make them worth the BR once the changes went through.
They really should lose the DM53 as they do not use it as far as I know.
Their mobility isn’t that good but is it? nor is the firepower, well now the 5 second reload sure but they spent years with a slow reload.
Ragebaiter among those 5-6 constant guys defending Russia at all costs on that forum.
It’s a thread stating Leclerc is poop (which it is, and even more now with the turret basket and all), and bro is commenting it’s very good and Russia suffers, once again
No point arguing with this guy
Because I disagree with you? Not rage baiting at all.
Leclerc is not bad mate, the turret basket additions were stupid AF:
You’ve got a major victim complex with the tanks which you use man. The russian MBTs are not OP at all, they are pretty mid which is something most folks agree on.
Their CAS and ofc this ridiculous addition of hte BMPT is what makes them strong.
The best MBTs in the game haven’t been russian for a very long time.
Nah cause I proved you wrong and you just said “I’m not reading that” now constantly insist on pushing lies about what vehicles I play.
The Leclerc is a decent tank bar the addition of the turret baskets.
It’s armours not the worst, not the best, good mobility and a good reload.
No one said russia suffers, just that You’ve a mindless obsession with spreading false facts about russian tanks to make them seem OP as hell when they aren’t.
I would say they are not OP but rather mid too, the main sources of “russian bias” is their CAS, SPAA and their IFVs (BMPT, BMD, etc) But tbh, I can understand them because of Relikt and Kontakt-5 seem to be too… bugged? There are to many moments of them tanking shells like they eat them on breakfast. And, yeah, the whole game is bugged, but this is something that is really strange for me. Also, there were lots, like, actually a lot of times when I shoot at LFP and my shell just disapiered… I don’t know, it doesn’t seem as skill issue from my perspective.
But still, with all this staff, I would still prefer Leclercs, Leos or Abrams tanks over russian ones