The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

Sadly, according to information that was mentioned Leclerc’s doesnt have access to spall liners.

Some people tried to bug report but turns out it didn’t have it from the beginning.

SHARD can be nice, tho hasn’t entered the service yet iirc.

That is the first and most important thing they should focus on.

It has been 4 years since armor was reported and Gaijin said they will look into it but nothing changed during that time.

Hell even Ariete recieved better UFP armor with rework while Leclerc still suffers from having weakest UFP and gun shield at top tier.

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Let’s not go this way again pretty please, SHARD was fired, and is compatible with Leclerc, that is all that matters, see Italian MBT having dm53 while not using it on those.

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Was I right about SHARD haven’t entered service yet? Yes

Did I say we should not add SHARD? No.

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I can’t be really confident with this one, so… I won’t argue. Just will say that I heard about analog of spall liners in Leclercs and it is KEVLAR, but I really don’t know if this is a thing for gaijing ┐('~`;)┌

Kevlar is not an analogue. Most linings are made from it.

For those who said that Leclerc doesn’t have spall liners

P.S. I can’t say if we can actually trust this information but I think, if there are statement about spall liners than Leclerc actually has it…

I don’t know your source, but I wouldn’t trust it since it’s calling the Leclerc “AMX 56” anyways

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That is what I also was thinking about anyway… But still, if there aren’t spall liners in Leclercs them where all this sources and bug report about spall liners took the information from… It seems strange to me if they claim that Leclercs have spall liners while Leclercs actually doesn’t have them

Leclerc does have Kevlar lines that can reduce spalling but its not exactly the same as spall liners iirc.

Report about spall liner was accepted years ago but we haven’t heard any news on that.

That is what i stated here before

And I understand that it doesn’t quet same to typical spall liners but it still doing its work

It’s the same thing.

Spall liner is mostly made of Kevlar.

But if the Kevlar is inside the armor package, it won’t affect shrapnel inside the fighting compartment. Inside the armor package, it can reduce damage to the package from a shell hit, allowing it to withstand more hits.

personally believe the arietes shouldn’t be hurling DM53 at all.
They only got it as a balancing metric years ago cause they were so bad.

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Yeah. They got DM53 back when they were somehow sitting at the same BR as the 2A7s and 122s lmao.

Now, they are at a relatively comfortable position at 11.7… so I fear Gaijin may intend to raise their BR “because of DM53” instead of just removing DM53, giving it its historical CL3143, and keeping it at 11.7 IF NOT even placing them at 11.3.

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Leclerc : faces T-90M in an urban corridor, LFP hidden in the debris, driver’s port hidden by tons of bushes

J-out

Leclerc in that situation wins most times mate TBH.

T90M is one of the worst examples you could of used compared to say a BVM, M1A2, LEOPARD 2A7

I genuinely would prefer that man if it lost the DM53 they’d be at a more respectable BR.
Irregardless of that I am now starting my grind towards them again, 9.3

Leclerc easily looses to T-90M in that situation.

Bein covered by bushes while hiding your LFP is basically bein equal to invincible in T-90M, meanwhile Leclerc is walking weakspot that can be one shot even by M18.

Granted its a very optimistic scenario for T-90M but claiming Leclerc will still win in that situation is completely wrong.

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Faced this exact situation yesterday in my SXXI - I lost while bouncing off his front plate…Le sigh

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sorry what? have you ever used the T90M or fought against it properly? It’s by far the easier of the top tier russian MBTs to take out.
As well as that, shoot the breach, the damn drivers port should always be a last resort for killing any T series tank

Not completely wrong at all. As well as what you also said, teh scenario is extremely unlikely anyways.
So a pointless comment.
Like saying if you come across a jagdtiger in an ally way with no way back, a 76MM gun, and can’t see it’s weakpoints just J out.

No Sh*t it’ll win but what’s the point in saying a comment like that.

on the topic of the leclercs but these turret baskets are a nightmare in them, genuinely had them taken out by folks gunning into my side with .50 cal on the M1A2.

why not shoot the turret top? you cannot tell me you cannot work out the general shape of the tank once you’ve made it to these BRs?

where do you get the time in a split second with a t90 barreling towards you at full speed to instantly aim for a spot covered in bushes and hope it happens to goes through the one turret weakspot, whereas he just half ass aims in your general direction and goes through your armor like a knife through butter - go away with your fantasies

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