The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

This is an X-ray hit detection bug (you are not damage FCS), not a bug of the fire control system.

I just verified that destroying the fire control system disrupts firing.

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This seems very odd given that he was obviously not able to aim his weapons and the FCS module was displayed as destroyed for several shots afterwards, which it usually wouldnt if the bug occurs.

I’ve seen this bug before, as I mentioned. Note that under X-Ray, you weren’t told the FCS was destroyed.

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The shot that I destroyed the fcs with isnt included in the clip above, but here;

Sorry, I didn’t see it. In any case, the bug isn’t what you’re talking about. I just showed it to you. You and a friend can test it under controlled conditions.

Well as I said earlier this isnt the first time this has happened against a BMPT (far from it in fact).
So either there is another bug that causes it to sometimes fail disabling the firing mechanism or it just outright doesnt work.

Other example: (27/01/2026)

I’ve seen this with other vehicles as well. I suggest you test this with a friend under controlled conditions. Or at least watch a server replay from your opponent’s perspective to see what their module state actually was.

Ok I’ve been living under a rock these past few months.
Still, on one hand you have the leopard, M1, and now other western vehicles which have turret rotation and elevation modules which when hit basically cripple their ability to shoot. Then you have light tanks which when their FCS is destroyed also are completely crippled. Meanwhile you have Russian MBT with only the FCS module, which when shoot, doesn’t act like light tanks and can still aim and fire, albeit with diminished capabilities. This still seems very lobsided

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I’ve already said that I think the approach to the FCS functions is incorrect.

Disabling aiming and firing should only be possible for vehicles with a remote combat module or for vehicles that lack manual aiming handles (for example, the Leclerc or later Leopards). For all other vehicles, slow manual aiming and firing should be retained. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a light tank or a heavy tank. I hope this gets fixed.

They have a different design and that’s all.

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No, my point is, why does the Russian tanks still lack those power modules. The way only half of the modules are implemented to certain vehicles doesn’t make sense to me.

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They have no power modules. The vertical and horizontal guidance drives are independently controlled.

They do not have a central power amplifier or hydraulic system.

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The drives are not hand cranked. They have to have delivery of an electrical system or hydraulic pump somewhere.
Just like the M1 has a massive pump modeled for its turret drive

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The drives are hand cranked by Stalins Ghost himself comrade. No further questions allowed otherwise hes gonna hand crank you to Siberia.

The Leclerc was sad before, it is even more sad now

The Leclerc is far from sad, it is still a pretty solid top tier MBT, though in its current and previous state it is more of a 12.0.

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I’m aware that the T-series’ vertical guidance drive has its own “pump,” while the horizontal guidance drive has its own motor.

This isn’t a single module that can be considered “power electronics in the game,” as it doesn’t control both systems simultaneously.

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As far as I am aware, that is exactly how the Abrams are modeled tho. But more as independent « hydraulic systems » than anything else
As for the Leclerc, they seem to model some random modules here and there that potentially do power distribution from the engine alternator, which should exist on any other tank

They are willing to shove several fully independent and unrelated parts into the fcs module on leopard 2’s (gunner and commander each have their own independent stabilization, ballistics and fire control computers + equipment plus manual backup cranks on 2A4 and another fully separated independant backup system on 2A5/6/7).

They can also be modelled as part of the vertical drive or horizontal-drive respectively.
This is not a issue for implementation whatsoever.

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I’m not ready to give you a definitive answer, but if the Abrams didn’t have a single hydraulic system, it would need two hydraulic fluid tanks. Does it have them? I think it has one.

Take the T-72A for example. I’ve circled everything that controls turret rotation. There’s no hydraulic pump or single power amplifier.
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This phrase doesn’t apply to the fire control system. In fact, it’s independent not only in the Leopard, but in most MBTs as well. The game apparently decided that this was unnecessary detail (it’s simply impossible to determine exactly which part of the fire control system is responsible for what in most cases).

Don’t make an invalid argument.

The Leopard’s vertical drive rotation handle is already designed as a horizontal one, which is a plus, as it reduces the vertical drive’s damage zone.
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