I doubt it’d affect Leclercs as much as they never really relied on their armor and survivability to bail them out.
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I think it matters because any shot you survived in the hull that allowed you to fire back now will result in you dying quickly to a 2nd followup shot while you try to reverse with a broken turret. It’s a large nerf that didn’t need to happen
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Considering you only have 3 crew in a tank without spall liners means you aren’t surviving many hull penetrations in the first place. So far, my best bet at surviving those shots is to pray that my frontal fuel tank will just eat the whole round alongside any created spall, so internals don’t get damaged anyways.
It’s a nerf, but a much smaller one than what you’ll find on Leopards and M1s.
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Its still a joke how gajin handles spall liner.
There is proven sources for a lot vehicles like pzh2k, boxers and so on.
But gajin never follows up on adding spall liners later
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Afaik, there is some information that leclercs have some kind of spall liners. There isn’t streight line about them but I read in different sources that leclercs have some material from inside which wotks like spall liners and its meant to reduce spall, so… Thats my point, but if gaijing needs a streight sentence where they can see “spall liner” then i guess we can’t do anything to this…
Edit: Just cheked the report for leclercs amd spall liners and find out that the material may be Kevlar but it’s rather a speculation point coz there isn’t any information about this material we can be confident with…
For some yes, but that’s beside the point.
I don’t see any good source that claims this.
Hot damn. Lots of modules. This is a significant nerf.
A bit like the EBRC Jaguar. If it’s penetrated but not killed, it looses all ability to fire due to the FCS being everywhere in the turret.
That’s also surprising they put so much modules for the electric drives. Since the Leclerc gun center of gravity is at its center of rotation it should not need that much equipment to work
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FCS dont block fire ability
True instead it turns off your stabilizer, Thermals and turret rotation speed.
Zero affect right?
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Well, it’s not a shooting feature. In general, many other MBTs have had this for a long time and it hasn’t caused me any problems.
I don’t think any current MBT has as much of their equipment modeled as critical modules, in such different places. The M1 and leopard 2 have basically one or 2 modules right next to the most armored parts of the turret.
They’re essentially destroyed by almost any penetration anyway.
The FСS blocks fragments and doesn’t create new ones, so it’s essentially a kind of spall liner. And it can be repaired in 5 seconds.
In my memory, the jaguar repair is about 10-15s. If it’s just 5s, it’s more bearable. I still don’t think introducing those modules to the Leclerc when things like the T series don’t have them yet isn’t a great decision (I was also largely against adding it to the M1 and Leo 3 only initially as well)
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Excuse me? All T-72, T-80 and T-90 received FCS in the summer.
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Ah yes, those mini modules while western ones are gigantic.
Defintily not biased
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Maybe because the tank itself is smaller and there is less space in it?
Doesn’t it bother you that there is literally no empty space left in the turret?
“mini modules”
I wouldn’t say that the Abrams’s fire control system is larger, given that the main unit is embedded in the cheek armor and is not located in the space behind the armor where it could receive fragments.
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Leclerc’s is really big, I can’t imagine why there are so many boxes with fire control systems there.
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He Is talking about THE GODDAMN BASKET
Um, sorry, no. The conversation was about the fire control system.
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