The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

Mistakes can be happen , try not to be douche next time.

as i already said

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eitherway going offtopic, not a leopard thread, its about leclercs, thats why i am gonna stop here

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So you’re accepting that it’s not fantasy at all.

Glad you’re accepting your mistake.

Took you long enough.

I dont mean it in a bad way! , i was actually going to ask is it much different to any of the other A7s? Extra armour or such?

100 percent should be added exactly like export variants, TBH if gaijin actually decompress, some new upgraded A7s etc could be the foundation of a new lineup for Germany.

The yak141 I am quite against as it was a joke.

The Moderna is a bit of an odd one, it was in prototype stage and was only panned due to the want for western vehicles.

Cr3 TD i maintain should still be removed tbh, it makes no sense to be in game.

Arc 3.0 could be a top end MBT once we work through the others you mentioned.

Armata levels of “new” though, same as that new proto ambrams.

Would be quite nice to see it , preferably soon tbh.

Potentially better to see if we can get the 2022 model then ? Though the 2024 does look way cooler.

Yeah it’s all a bit far fetched as well as you say, theyll end up as skins.

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On the topic of Leclercs i recently got the first two, and i was extremely surprised how good they are tbh.

Nice well rounded MBTS

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So by your logic two completely new tanks will end up as skin?

Lol, lmao even.

I get dot, he’s btthurt that Sweden will receive more armored leopards and he can’t stand the fact that Sweden can rival Germany in many cases.

But at least you can use some common sense.

What vehicles? The non added sub tree of denmark?

Norway only has the 2A7 last i checked unless they also got some 2A8s, however they would likely add 1 2A8 to swedennand call it a day.

Aside from their mobility and reload they got nothing special.

nup, not even that.

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Sweden already ordered Leopard2A8 and upgrading their 122 fleet to modern standards.

I’m not even talking about Denmark in this case.

upgraded strv122 and 1 2a8, likely would happen.
Since the upgraded strv122 will likely still differ from 2a8s.
2a8s has been confirmed to get new optics and new engines as well now

But 2a8s you likely will only get 1, since they will be the same across nations. and norway will end up as a skin

For more realy you should take it to the sweden thread if you wanna crash out, but leave the poor french alone

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They’re overall well rounded tanks, they dont need something extemely special to be well rounded.
Hence the statement overall well rounded.

They do pretty much everything nicely which means they are extemely versatile.

Also he has literally provided you with multiple counter points to your claim, primarily Denmarks not a subtree.

Norway dont have rhe 2a7 and sweden have yet to recieve said leopard 2A8s and wont get them for at least another 3 years…

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Agreed.

Again on topic if leclercs, i think if they got an armour buff they would potentially have to move up in BR.
I don’t know what it js about them but they feel really effective to use.

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Never said it’s gonna be more than one.

I’m more French main than you buddy, if you want to discuss how Germany suffers you can take it to somewhere else.

i love how at no point here did i talk about being a french main or talk about the current state of the german tech tree. I only corrected an pigeon about future possible options , for germany as well as possible french options that came to my mind since a lot of them are german / french collaboration developments.

You were the one who brought other matters into it

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Tell you have no idea about Leclercs without telling me you have no idea.

If you think that’s effective try Type-10’s.

They are Leclercs but better in almost every way.

Actually you’re the one who started all this by mentioning Sweden in Leclerc thread.

He wasn’t even doing that, he merely corrected i false statement on my part , no one mentioned Germany suffering…

You’re going out of your way here to actively attack him over incorrect statements you have made.

Says the man that thought Denmark is a swedish sub tree.

I’ve got about 100 games between 2 of them if i remember correctly, they are solid tanks in game.

When did he mention sweden? It was me who mentioned them.