Aside from their mobility and reload they got nothing special.
nup, not even that.
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Sweden already ordered Leopard2A8 and upgrading their 122 fleet to modern standards.
I’m not even talking about Denmark in this case.
upgraded strv122 and 1 2a8, likely would happen.
Since the upgraded strv122 will likely still differ from 2a8s.
2a8s has been confirmed to get new optics and new engines as well now
But 2a8s you likely will only get 1, since they will be the same across nations. and norway will end up as a skin
For more realy you should take it to the sweden thread if you wanna crash out, but leave the poor french alone
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They’re overall well rounded tanks, they dont need something extemely special to be well rounded.
Hence the statement overall well rounded.
They do pretty much everything nicely which means they are extemely versatile.
Also he has literally provided you with multiple counter points to your claim, primarily Denmarks not a subtree.
Norway dont have rhe 2a7 and sweden have yet to recieve said leopard 2A8s and wont get them for at least another 3 years…
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Agreed.
Again on topic if leclercs, i think if they got an armour buff they would potentially have to move up in BR.
I don’t know what it js about them but they feel really effective to use.
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Never said it’s gonna be more than one.
I’m more French main than you buddy, if you want to discuss how Germany suffers you can take it to somewhere else.
i love how at no point here did i talk about being a french main or talk about the current state of the german tech tree. I only corrected an pigeon about future possible options , for germany as well as possible french options that came to my mind since a lot of them are german / french collaboration developments.
You were the one who brought other matters into it
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Tell you have no idea about Leclercs without telling me you have no idea.
If you think that’s effective try Type-10’s.
They are Leclercs but better in almost every way.
Actually you’re the one who started all this by mentioning Sweden in Leclerc thread.
He wasn’t even doing that, he merely corrected i false statement on my part , no one mentioned Germany suffering…
You’re going out of your way here to actively attack him over incorrect statements you have made.
Says the man that thought Denmark is a swedish sub tree.
I’ve got about 100 games between 2 of them if i remember correctly, they are solid tanks in game.
When did he mention sweden? It was me who mentioned them.
please go ahead and show me
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Even when it was me.
You live in his walls i think 😂
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Only thing i did was correct him in the likely amount of tanks possible/likely sweden could get after he started naming false ones xD
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At least I’m not delusional to think that Leclerc’s should receive br raise if they receive armor buff unlike you.
And I got much more games than you to have solid opinion on Leclerc’s, in fact my most played tank is Leclerc S2 having more than 500+ games.
Leclerc’s are good but has nothing special going on compare to other top tier MBT’s.
It got solid reload but outperformed by Japanese tanks.
Armor is nothing special alongside with mobility.
Penetration power is also nothing special.
So tell me what makes them solid in any regard?
He would need to correct me if i am wrong.
But he is a Brit main guy.
In comparison to challengers anything is solid. Specialy if he is used to their speed
Compare to Challenger even Leopard2A4 is more solid if you care about mobility only.
Denmark is a subtree of Sweden I believe. I believe Smin mentioned that danish vehicles would usually end up in Sweden. It’s just not completely official
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It’s not delusional, they already have good mobility as well as good reload.
Addition of extra armour would put them above their contemporaries.
The aformentioned facts make them well rounded and good tanks, they don’t really lack in any department. Unlike say the arietes as well as the merkavas.
We don’t start sentences with “and”.
However, you may have more games in them but it feels like you want to think they’re worse than they actively are.
I dont main any nation , I’ve got every tree bar sweden and italy at top tier.
Most used top tier MBTs are the Abrams then followed by challangers.
However ive got plenty games between every tree between 11.0 and 12.0.
Again , it’s not an official sub tree then
its the difference between some danish vehicles ending up as purely event / premiums or tech trees.
So there is still quite a difference, one thing doesnt confirm the other
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