TM are already aware, I have been told this is indeed just a suggestion and that the devs already had access to those sources anyway. They were used for other reports.
Nothing is going to change with this report. Devs already know they can play with the reload from 4s to 6s (one being the fastest speed, while the other is the standard speed). No need to make a fuss about it.
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For reference, this is the ACTUAL report.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/iCb7OYT5FbRz
The one using actual, real and full sources and not a single sentence from a single, superficial source out of context.
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Glad to read this. Let’s just hope this doesn’t turn into another M735 case.
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The same thing happens with the 100mm 3BM25, which the developers apparently confused with the 3BM20 and yet its performance is inferior to reality.
Awesome cheers for clearing that up .
The MSC is so sad at 11.0… it doesn’t even offer anything good/useful for the br.
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It’s pretty decent at 11.0, not very good, but decent. The problem is that it doesn’t have something truly unic, it needs 5sec reload and then MSC is fine at 11.0, the better shell is needed too. At this moment it isn’t good or bad, it is something medium…
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I feel bad for the peeps who have to face 11.0 - 12.0 tanks with just heat as the stock round. The G1 should at least be default or moved to the first tier of modifications, if it gets the F1 i fear it’ll just get dumped in to 12.0 with the rest of the leclercs.
Uptiers are still nasty it’s ok if you’ve got the leclercs already unlocked and can field the MSC as a backup tank in the lineup but when you run a 10 - 10.7 lineup with it and you get a full uptier to 12.0 it’s horrid.
Stock or more easily accesible APFSDS should probably happen though…
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First of all, the MSC never fired the F1. It was decommissioned before F1 arrived.
Secondly, the G1 is a fine APFSDS at 11.0. It is however indeed lacking in uptiers, but there’s an insane compression issue especially in ground high tiers.
What could be buffed on the MSC is its fire rate and maybe its mobility (like all Leclercs)
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The experience of playing stock leclercs before they were all moved to rank 8 even though the 4 of them were all 12.0. Pure pain
Can well believe it, still can’t understand why every leclerc is dumped at 12.0 and when something does get added to fill a hole it gets immediately up br’d.
France OP i guess
Leclerc’s protection was at a smaller arc. That’s my point, across the EXACT SAME ARC the 2A4(C) would’ve had a higher level of protection than the Leclerc, due to it ALREADY HAVING A HIGHER one at wider angles.
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When the enemy team was full of T-72B3s and your best round was HEAT
Sometimes it got so bad i had to go in arcade assault to relax
I won’t thank you for making me remember X)
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I got the most pissed at gaijin because I could not be assed to play 2 leclercs with stock heat so I skipped the S2 even though it was the fastest way to get an actual 12.0 lineup. But then when I was 50k away from the SXXI they moved them all up and gave them stock darts. I was so pissed because I played so many games with only 1 leclerc while I could have had the S2 researched twice and actually had a lineup.
Just French main things.
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We should be very careful with that because modern composite armor modules aren´t made up of a homogeneus material and for most tanks we don´t know how the internal geometry is laid out.
In other words, variations of impact angle across the frontal arc may not have much difference in armor protection. Look at T-72/90 turret NERA, the closer the impact is to frontal 90 degrees, the projectile goes through more reflective plates and more steel LOS (front and back plate), and the closer the impact is to the side 30 deg arc, it goes through less LOS steel and fewer reflective plates but at more accute angles. In other words, in this well known internal array the internal layout compensates the variations of impact angle across the frontal arc while maintaining a fairly constant protection performance. Is this the case with all tanks? Very hard to know for sure.
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Leclerc is proper nice to use tho tbh
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As light tank
I use it as an MBT i was actually shocked how good it can be.
It’s needing some love tho i just thought id say that its not sufferig too much…
Merkavas are my next top tiers 😭
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Most of the tanks are nice until you got hit lol
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I find the leclercs ti be reasonable for survivability, until the magic fuel tanks go iff