The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

Funny actual sources also mentions it can reload at 4 seconds.

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It can. But its reload rate usualy limited to 5 or sometimes (prety rare) 6 secs for better reliability. I realy hope Gaijing won’t nerf Leclerc to 6sec again… Gaijing, Please, Don’t Do That

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An automatic loader is much faster than a man, so if the Leclerc increases by one second, the American tank that reloads in 5 seconds must also be increased! I can’t believe that this Gajin garbage accepts 1 source when we gave I don’t know how many sources to make it go to 5 seconds, including the army which was not reliable in their eyes!

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Gaijin does not accept 1 source, and Gaijin hasn’t done anything to Leclerc at this time.

Gaijin does accept singular primary sources tho.
As for the discussion around reload rates, gaijin usually nerfs, buffs, or does nothing as a mean of balance rather than historical accuracy. For example, the autoloader found on the char 25t was underperforming for ages until it got moved up in BR were it’s not relevant anymore.

It’s not the complete story, as always, as the type 10 is in general a better tank than the Leclerc and gets a better reload as well, but that’s a good approximation of how reloads are handled

This along with the fact Gaijin has buffed vehicles only to re-nerf them later; it depends on how the snail currently feels about said vehicle.

If Gaijin wants to nerf the Leclerc, they could very well reduce the reload back to 6 seconds.

It would not be the first time such a thing has happened to a vehicle.

It would be interesting to debate with this guy to find out the reason for this report.

Spanish, read the entire comment string.
It’s submitted as a suggestion, which means nothing because it’s the same sources that Gaijin already has.

Y’all are panicking over something Gaijin has already had sources on for years… If they wanted it to be 6 seconds, they don’t need that report to do it.

I have no idea, but my comment calling it out got flag-spammed into hiding.

After the M735 debacle, I expect anything…

Regardless of the risk, I just don’t understand what anyone can have against Leclerc to attempt to undo all the job put into improving it and ruin it.

The fact that my comment calling it out was flag-spammed into hiding makes it only even worse.

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Message a tech mod with the contradictory report, it’s about 2 years old now but has about 11 sources which is why we have the 5 second reload today.

TM are already aware, I have been told this is indeed just a suggestion and that the devs already had access to those sources anyway. They were used for other reports.
Nothing is going to change with this report. Devs already know they can play with the reload from 4s to 6s (one being the fastest speed, while the other is the standard speed). No need to make a fuss about it.

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For reference, this is the ACTUAL report.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/iCb7OYT5FbRz

The one using actual, real and full sources and not a single sentence from a single, superficial source out of context.

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Glad to read this. Let’s just hope this doesn’t turn into another M735 case.

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The same thing happens with the 100mm 3BM25, which the developers apparently confused with the 3BM20 and yet its performance is inferior to reality.

Awesome cheers for clearing that up .

The MSC is so sad at 11.0… it doesn’t even offer anything good/useful for the br.

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It’s pretty decent at 11.0, not very good, but decent. The problem is that it doesn’t have something truly unic, it needs 5sec reload and then MSC is fine at 11.0, the better shell is needed too. At this moment it isn’t good or bad, it is something medium…

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I feel bad for the peeps who have to face 11.0 - 12.0 tanks with just heat as the stock round. The G1 should at least be default or moved to the first tier of modifications, if it gets the F1 i fear it’ll just get dumped in to 12.0 with the rest of the leclercs.
Uptiers are still nasty it’s ok if you’ve got the leclercs already unlocked and can field the MSC as a backup tank in the lineup but when you run a 10 - 10.7 lineup with it and you get a full uptier to 12.0 it’s horrid.

Stock or more easily accesible APFSDS should probably happen though…

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First of all, the MSC never fired the F1. It was decommissioned before F1 arrived.
Secondly, the G1 is a fine APFSDS at 11.0. It is however indeed lacking in uptiers, but there’s an insane compression issue especially in ground high tiers.

What could be buffed on the MSC is its fire rate and maybe its mobility (like all Leclercs)

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