Unlike popular opinion T90M is actually decent tank.
Fight me :D
Well… for 11.7 maybe. For 12.0 hell no. He (like 72b3a) was put there only to make new “top mbt” for ussr. Actually the only reson for 90m being at 12.0 is a combination of spall liner and ERA Relict. Sometimes (underline it two more times) it makes him kinda hard to kill from some angles. But when faced faco-to-face just shoot his drivers hatch or LFP. No forward speed. No reverse speed. No gun depression. Worst reloading speed. Nothing to make it at least semidecent. Only survivability from time to time.
Your turn
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It’s decent until you have to reverse. And I think it shares the same vulnerable spots as in Leo 2a7v/strv 122.
Until you have to reverse and reload 😅
T-80BVM / T-90M share similar vulnerable spots as Leopard 2A7 / Strv 122, but you have a lower profile.
However, the drivers port is much easier to shoot at the gunner / commander optics are easy to penetrate, they get a much worse shell, worse gun depression along with the terrible reverse speed and long reload.
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Can we fight in reverse gear though ?
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VXbZ2I3Oaato
Welp GGS guys our Leclerc’s reload might get re-nerfed back to 6 seconds
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So much firsthand evidence and proof went into getting it to 5s, changing it to 6 for that unarticulated of a post would be wild
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yup
the report made 2 years ago to make it 5 seconds was quite well sourced
you could add the resting position for the gun as a mechanic, but it would be on every MBT, not just Leclerc
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What?
The change was based on multiple sources including official ones, what makes this guy think current reload is not possible.
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Both reloads are correct as per sources.
Gaijin already has sources for both 5 seconds and 6 seconds, so that bug report at most just added another source to the pile.
If Gaijin was going to make it 6 seconds again, they would’ve done it already.
The bug report is mostly a nothingburger.
That’s because one actually deserves to go up.
Funny actual sources also mentions it can reload at 4 seconds.
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It can. But its reload rate usualy limited to 5 or sometimes (prety rare) 6 secs for better reliability. I realy hope Gaijing won’t nerf Leclerc to 6sec again… Gaijing, Please, Don’t Do That
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An automatic loader is much faster than a man, so if the Leclerc increases by one second, the American tank that reloads in 5 seconds must also be increased! I can’t believe that this Gajin garbage accepts 1 source when we gave I don’t know how many sources to make it go to 5 seconds, including the army which was not reliable in their eyes!
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Gaijin does not accept 1 source, and Gaijin hasn’t done anything to Leclerc at this time.
Gaijin does accept singular primary sources tho.
As for the discussion around reload rates, gaijin usually nerfs, buffs, or does nothing as a mean of balance rather than historical accuracy. For example, the autoloader found on the char 25t was underperforming for ages until it got moved up in BR were it’s not relevant anymore.
It’s not the complete story, as always, as the type 10 is in general a better tank than the Leclerc and gets a better reload as well, but that’s a good approximation of how reloads are handled
This along with the fact Gaijin has buffed vehicles only to re-nerf them later; it depends on how the snail currently feels about said vehicle.
If Gaijin wants to nerf the Leclerc, they could very well reduce the reload back to 6 seconds.
It would not be the first time such a thing has happened to a vehicle.
It would be interesting to debate with this guy to find out the reason for this report.
Spanish, read the entire comment string.
It’s submitted as a suggestion, which means nothing because it’s the same sources that Gaijin already has.
Y’all are panicking over something Gaijin has already had sources on for years… If they wanted it to be 6 seconds, they don’t need that report to do it.
I have no idea, but my comment calling it out got flag-spammed into hiding.