Tbf, nearly all tanks dont have there “real” armor (from the modern ones)
Yeap, but some tanks hava better armor then others coz they got Gaijing treatment and love but others no… But actualy you are right here coz lots of information about modern tanks is classified… And still some tanks gets normal armor and others not. Why? Coz Gaijing don’t care about minor nations like Italy or France, sadly…
Yeah…
We can speak a lot. But lets be honest, Gaijing just don’t care and we can’t make them to do something… And the problem is that players don’t care too, coz 90% of players don’t play minor nations at all… And Gaijing can accept everything we tell them then just don’t do it. That’s so frustrating for me…
Modern? They got their hands on T80U when DM33 was relatively new, they tested and turns out DM33 wasnt effective against Kontakt-5, thats why they developed DM53 in the first place.
You can search up according to these informations, its been a long time since i saw the documents about it.
I knew about DM33 tests on T80U but never saw anything on DM53. I’ll have a look though. Thx.
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Its depending on player but i agree with you)
lul wut.
Unlike popular opinion T90M is actually decent tank.
Fight me :D
Well… for 11.7 maybe. For 12.0 hell no. He (like 72b3a) was put there only to make new “top mbt” for ussr. Actually the only reson for 90m being at 12.0 is a combination of spall liner and ERA Relict. Sometimes (underline it two more times) it makes him kinda hard to kill from some angles. But when faced faco-to-face just shoot his drivers hatch or LFP. No forward speed. No reverse speed. No gun depression. Worst reloading speed. Nothing to make it at least semidecent. Only survivability from time to time.
Your turn
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It’s decent until you have to reverse. And I think it shares the same vulnerable spots as in Leo 2a7v/strv 122.
Until you have to reverse and reload 😅
T-80BVM / T-90M share similar vulnerable spots as Leopard 2A7 / Strv 122, but you have a lower profile.
However, the drivers port is much easier to shoot at the gunner / commander optics are easy to penetrate, they get a much worse shell, worse gun depression along with the terrible reverse speed and long reload.
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Can we fight in reverse gear though ?
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VXbZ2I3Oaato
Welp GGS guys our Leclerc’s reload might get re-nerfed back to 6 seconds
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So much firsthand evidence and proof went into getting it to 5s, changing it to 6 for that unarticulated of a post would be wild
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yup
the report made 2 years ago to make it 5 seconds was quite well sourced
you could add the resting position for the gun as a mechanic, but it would be on every MBT, not just Leclerc
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What?
The change was based on multiple sources including official ones, what makes this guy think current reload is not possible.
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Both reloads are correct as per sources.
Gaijin already has sources for both 5 seconds and 6 seconds, so that bug report at most just added another source to the pile.
If Gaijin was going to make it 6 seconds again, they would’ve done it already.
The bug report is mostly a nothingburger.
That’s because one actually deserves to go up.