The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

MSC… One update goes up in BR 2s38… Gets missed on multiple occasions. Both affected my module changes tho weird…

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Nah, they already sold copypasted leopard enough and now they broke the lineup coz the MSC wasn’t able to stay at 10.7 for long coz it’s clearly 11.0 vehicle… But they nerfed it to sell copypasted leopard, thats all…

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and we did not even receive a better reload with the br change…

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Yeah, thats the most stupid thing here… Like, they nerf reload to place it at 10.7 and now bumped it to 11.0 and don’t buff the reload… This is just classic thing. And u know, if they give to MSC its 5sec reload it will go up straigh to 11.3

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It would be great if they could now add some long awaited light tanks to give us a 11.0 line up

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I would like to see some more vehicles at VII rank for Feance, but hell nah, coz there is only 5 vehicles now and you need all 5 vehicles to be able to go for rank VIII… And i totally sure if they will add something to this rank the needed vehicles will be 6 and this is much more grind and no other options…ヽ( ´ー`)ノ

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Considering how it can only receive DM33 or move to 12.0 with OFL F1, and Type 90 & Type 10 prototype are 11.7 with DM33…
Safe to say 11.0 is where that round stays.

Only America can receive a Leclerc like tank at 11.3 with an OFL F1 equivalent round. /s

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On one hand I am annoyed that top tier is practically mixed battle leopardthunder at this point now that practically everyone gets everyone else’s stuff with subtrees, I think it makes the game largely boring and removes some of the individuality of nations.

On the other hand they’ll really recolor the osa and strela three times before they fix an almost 3 br gap in the top tier French SPAA range then finally add some unique French vehicles they actually need before making them irrelevant. Just be consistent.

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At this point a can’t disagree. And Gaijing won’t give Leclerc a OFL F2 coz they dont wanna make minor nation good… Thats why we stuck with OFL F1 for long now, imho this fine with shells coz at top tier you will shoot same weakspots at every shell on top tier, tge diferrence is not very big. The bigger issue with Leclercs is their fuked up armor… For me this is much bigger problem and we cant prove this to Gaijing
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Gaijin adding DM53 and M829A2 were mistakes IMO.
When 3BM60 and DTC 125 are the best rounds two nations can get, that should be the standard for all tech trees.

Probably one opinion from game balance perspective that’s likely not popular.

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I see your point, but personally i don’t see big difference between dm33 dm43 and dm55. Obviously this shells are the same in gameplay aspect and, MAYBE, there is a small difference in damage. But yeap, i’m totally fine with OFL F1 which is not that bad as people says. The real problem is, as i said, wrongly modeled armor, and im realy feel kinda upset about this. We can’t make gaijing to do proper armor on Leclerc coz information is classified… And there is a issue with spalliners, like, we have a very old report about this and it was accepted for very long time and there is still no spalliners for Leclerc… But u are right about balance.

Hell no, why Russians and China can get their best ammunition while others can’t.

Also let me remind you there is still M829A3/4 and DM63/73 left to be added.

It’s inevitable that NATO supreme will always come on top.

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lol If that ever happens it’ll be exclusively USA vs USA because all other tech trees will be too low of a BR to join.
Absolutely terrible for game design to allow that.

This is reality, sadly… Gaijing won’t give NATO tanks their best ammunition coz Russia and China already have the best available and there won’t be better shells for them. And of course new shells will be much better then shells we have now but we won’t have them untill Russia will have something better then 3BM60

Tbh if they model Anti-ERA feature current shells will be overpowered as well.

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That is the main problem for Gaijing. If they will do this like it is in reality, then Russia and China will be the worst nations. And Gaijing will never make Russia the worst nation to play, lmao

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Anyway, i still have hope for Gaijing to fix issues with NATO tanks. But this is only me dreaming, in reality we won’t see Leclerc, Ariete, Chally and even M1A2 SEP V2 get fixed and get love from Gaijing…

It wouldn’t make any difference. It’s not like somehow magically it has 500mm extra pen. UFP and turret is still largely not available, u can still pen sides and LFP, which means it makes 0 difference.

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If we are talking about OFL F2 then maybe yea, but if we are speaking about recent shells then the russian era will be useless coz that shells is focused to defeat russian armor. So, you are right about not big difference between 550mm penn and 700mm penn but if we are talking about 800+mm pen then this can be very savage for russian tanks.
But in total you’re right, shells dont make very big diffrence where u will shoot enemys.
And as I said before, the main issue with Leclerc is lack of spalliners and armor which it has in reality and this issu is not only with Leclerc, but solid part of NATO tanks in game

You dont need 800+ penetration for UFP. Anti-Era ability on DM53 can penetrate kontakt-5 equipped T-Series Tank’s UFP up to 2km, same goes for M289A2,Type-10,M338 and L27A1.