One of the most annoying thing for me about Leclercs in general is their manoeuverability. I don’t know why but they behave like boats in game and I don’t think this is even accurate since its mobility is supposed to be one of its main strength. I hope this can be buffed or that it will change in the future because it is one of the most important factor for me.
Hope I am not alone in this situation.
they accelerate all right, it’s more a matter of almost all other MBTs overperforming in that area
It loses a lot of speed while turning also, which is quite annoying
On a completely unrelated note :
XLR could now be added to the game as it’s officialy in service. Ideally it could get the shard when the order for these shells arrives.
Compared to Azure, it would at least be based on SXXI (so a bit more frontal armor on the turret) and to the naked eye the add on side armor package seems fairly thicker, although i can’t confirm.
Is there any info on those add-on package laying around ?
Leclerc also overperforms in terms of acceleration…
The Leclerc does over perform a bit in acceleration. But, along the leopard 2 and M1, they don’t overperform nearly as much as other vehicles. The chart below was created a while ago
If the Leclerc, léopard and M1 over performed as much as the t80u, they could do 0-40kph in 2s in realistic, which basically no tanks can do even in arcade battles
unlike the 2s38 that got added before it even got accepted into service, the leclerc is french so give it atleast 2 more years until it’s added, and since it’s a new version of the leclerc gaijin will happily give us 1mm of added protection on the upper turret, but since protection takes weight it’s gonna have a reduced max speed of 40kmh, 1994 version of the ofl f1 still included as top dart ofc
Yeah i know, i helped in the making of that chart after all lol
If the Leclerc, léopard and M1 over performed as much as the t80u, they could do 0-40kph in 2s in realistic, which basically no tanks can do even in arcade battles
That’s why I said earlier in the thread the biggest difference after fixing will be between T-series and the Leclerc, most others would stay mostly similar in terms of comparative acceleration to the Leclerc… of course, aside from the Fatty 2.
Pretty much exactly shows transmission efficiency here,
Well if EBRC Jaguar is anything to go by, i’m afraid you are quite right X)
Holy Jesus the Challenger 2 is so sad
Poor French TT.
I heard UK also suffers but they received CR3 TD that hasn’t entered service. That’s interesting.
Thats not correct. The same source (British) that specifies the 420 level of protection for Leclerc also states that Leopard 2 initial model was rated at 350mm KE while the C tech upgrade was 435mm.
What is the source of this? Though I can see all kinds of wrong with it.
On the other hand, its statistically likely that Leclerc S2 reaches 550mm KE on the turret and SXXI 700mm.
wee wee Russian text alert wee wee
source not acceptable - but Russian vehicles can’t get buffs from NATO sources tho, that is absolutely fair
Who said it wasn´t “acceptable”? Just that people don´t properly cite them. Everyone should cite because thats how you can tell apart a legitimate source from fake fabricated stuff. Over the years we got a plenty of BS trying to pass for legitimate sources.
The developers themselves said that.
When Russian sources on the armor of several tanks like the M1 and Leclerc was used to report buffs for those vehicles, devs suddenly decided that no, those sources would not be accepted. Even when properly cited, coming from the ministry of defense and all that
I know they do but why do you make it a response to my comment when I merely asked to know what was that snippet?
And I do not rule out Russian source in principle. Just know that they don´t have first hand access to western tanks armor values, neither as data from manufacturers or governments or by doing actual testing. So, said hypothetical sources (which I haven´t seen BTW) are assesements and estimations at best. However if tomorrow they release actual data from testing done on captured tanks, that should be 100 percent valid.
I wonder if those images were already used in previous bug reports to buff the armor
I think someone should make a second thread - it’s been years since the first post and the Leclerc changed a lot since then (would we still even ask for armor buffs pre SXXI? new ammo?).
Please excuse if this sequence was already posted :
the colonel presenting the armored vehicles basically says “On a un [une protection d’] arc frontal particulièrement efficace sur le char Leclerc, notamment sur toute la plage avant, c’est-à-dire la protection de la caisse”, which you could translate by :
“There is an adequate protection on Leclerc’s entire frontal arc, especially on the upper front plate, which is the hull protection” (last part of the translation sounds weird, but “plage avant” in french does not really indicate that it’s the hull, which is why he specifies it a second time).
He then goes on to specify that it’s a succession of layers (mille-feuille) which is NERA as we all know, nothing special here.
Not a source on itself, but it doesn’t scream “upper front plate = weak point” like it does in game…
