In itself, no, the tech tree is not paid with IRl money (although) but what is like WT is the fact of paying to have largely advantages, look at the clickbait as it is abused, look at the premium FR tanks next door… Everything is said it is like WOT which favors the payers by letting HE or HEAT pass through spaced armor
If they won’t change specs, why not, even if totally stupid and unrealistic (realistic game they said ?), but they only have to lower the BR to 11.3 for base Leclerc (S2 and azur too) and Leclerc SXXI and Ito need to be maximum 11.7 …
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What is going on on this thread suddenly?
Why are non-rule breaking comments from 2023 being flag-spammed into hiding and even deletion?
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IDK. Might be Francais haters.
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Yes, haters are brigading the thread to such obssessive degree that they are flagging POSTS FROM 2023.
What’s the deal with people!?
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if you knew what you was talking about, then you should know that the systeme leclerc book was only about the leclerc S1, the leclerc s2 and sXXI do have spall liner, dont use sources that you dont even read
You gotta source to prove that?
It would be really nice to see spall liners on my beloved Leclerc, at least their survivability will increase a lot since Gaijin refuses to fix the armor.
not a source for gaijin since its not a source until its the governement itself saying it according to gaijin, so nothing that will help having it in game, but I can send you a pdf I did on the leclerc, showing different thing about the leclerc that are mostly unknow, about its armor and more, with sources
like france did ? you are talking about things you dont know, france after the ofl 120 F1 did the f1b, the f1B+, after that they started using “uranium appauvri” with the ofl 120 F2, but the “uranium appauvri” affect the environement really meanly so they developed the ofle 120 F2, more recently comes the shard, probably the best in the world at the moment.
i hate this so much its incredible
leclerc buff? nah we dont trust russian sources
f-5 nerf? sorry tovarisch, we use data of soviet trials))) amerikan data is of not accurate))
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F1B and F1B+ are still the same penetrator as OFL F1, same length, same diameter, same speed.
they started using “uranium appauvri” with the ofl 120 F2, but the “uranium appauvri”
Same length as OFL F1 just different material, still just as worthless against Heavy ERA targets.
more recently comes the shard, probably the best in the world at the moment.
It’s at the level of the DM63A1 and vastly behind projectiles like M829A4 and DM83, and it’s not even in use by the French Army, whereas the other two either are in service, or will be soon.
So uh, congrats on proving it’s YOU who is talking about things you have no idea about?
lmaoo its funny how you know so many confidential information, is it a leak or just a poor lie ? because for now there are absolutly no information for the shard except that its a next gen apfsds t, said by knds them sefl, and you didnt say anything about the ofle 120 F2, except that you was wrong…at least its what you should say
Well I just checked all Leclerc´s armor ingame. S1 is hugely overperforming (primary sources indicate circa 420mm KE). S2 is about where I estimate it should be so it gets a pass. SXXI is underperforming a bit. But OG Leclerc should get its armor nerfed hard, if we want it to be realistic.
Which sources ? 1990 one ? 😂
1991 and 1994. Both British and Swede sources corroborate each other when it comes to Leclerc protection values. There are no other public primary sources that give out specific armor values for Leclerc at this moment.
And you really think that 30 years later Leclerc still has same specs that these pre production Leclerc ?
I only refered to the original Leclerc, not the S2 nor the SXXI. As I said, S2 is kinda were I estimate it to be and SXXI a bit lower than what I consider likely.
Both documents speaks about pre production Leclerc which is also indicated in those reports.
In this case your claim is not true.
SXII is much lower than it should be.
It uses titanium instead of regular steel on its armor.
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