The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

PASEO…

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The Army recently released this video. I don’t know if we can get any information from it. It’s about the Leclerc XLR.

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Don’t hope anything new for the Leclerc …

When we see that Leclerc s1/s2/Azur and Ito 90 are still 12.0 while against Leo 2a7 and Iris-T you understand that Gaijin doesn’t care about French tech tree.

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We’ve been asking for a major update for the Leclerc for two years, and the developers refuse. And then there are the lame excuses: they talk about the first versions that the Swedes (or whoever) tried in real life. They also tell us that the information isn’t sufficient, or—even worse—that the official website of the French Army isn’t reliable… The Army!!
It’s as if they’re afraid the Leclerc is too powerful, and that the USA and Germany aren’t bringing in enough money to get even richer…
Look at the Americans: their non-premium tanks are literally overkill… They release even more overkill premium tanks, and continue to improve these two nations…
France isn’t bringing in enough money for them to make major improvements…
It’s like World of Tanks: free-to-play games, but you have to pay to grind the tech trees. Hoping that the devs realize that comparing them to WOT is not a compliment… When you know that on WOT if you pay you have your shell that penetrates every X days and after that you don’t penetrate anything…

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WoT grind is literally free tho? all paid is premium tanks and camouflages and 100% crew (lilke WT but unlike WT it doesn’t change gameplay much to favor the donator)

In itself, no, the tech tree is not paid with IRl money (although) but what is like WT is the fact of paying to have largely advantages, look at the clickbait as it is abused, look at the premium FR tanks next door… Everything is said it is like WOT which favors the payers by letting HE or HEAT pass through spaced armor

If they won’t change specs, why not, even if totally stupid and unrealistic (realistic game they said ?), but they only have to lower the BR to 11.3 for base Leclerc (S2 and azur too) and Leclerc SXXI and Ito need to be maximum 11.7 …

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What is going on on this thread suddenly?

Why are non-rule breaking comments from 2023 being flag-spammed into hiding and even deletion?

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IDK. Might be Francais haters.
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lmao apparently this was flagged for being “offensive”

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Yes, haters are brigading the thread to such obssessive degree that they are flagging POSTS FROM 2023.

What’s the deal with people!?

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if you knew what you was talking about, then you should know that the systeme leclerc book was only about the leclerc S1, the leclerc s2 and sXXI do have spall liner, dont use sources that you dont even read

You gotta source to prove that?

It would be really nice to see spall liners on my beloved Leclerc, at least their survivability will increase a lot since Gaijin refuses to fix the armor.

not a source for gaijin since its not a source until its the governement itself saying it according to gaijin, so nothing that will help having it in game, but I can send you a pdf I did on the leclerc, showing different thing about the leclerc that are mostly unknow, about its armor and more, with sources

like france did ? you are talking about things you dont know, france after the ofl 120 F1 did the f1b, the f1B+, after that they started using “uranium appauvri” with the ofl 120 F2, but the “uranium appauvri” affect the environement really meanly so they developed the ofle 120 F2, more recently comes the shard, probably the best in the world at the moment.

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i hate this so much its incredible
leclerc buff? nah we dont trust russian sources
f-5 nerf? sorry tovarisch, we use data of soviet trials))) amerikan data is of not accurate))

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F1B and F1B+ are still the same penetrator as OFL F1, same length, same diameter, same speed.

they started using “uranium appauvri” with the ofl 120 F2, but the “uranium appauvri”

Same length as OFL F1 just different material, still just as worthless against Heavy ERA targets.

more recently comes the shard, probably the best in the world at the moment.

It’s at the level of the DM63A1 and vastly behind projectiles like M829A4 and DM83, and it’s not even in use by the French Army, whereas the other two either are in service, or will be soon.

So uh, congrats on proving it’s YOU who is talking about things you have no idea about?

lmaoo its funny how you know so many confidential information, is it a leak or just a poor lie ? because for now there are absolutly no information for the shard except that its a next gen apfsds t, said by knds them sefl, and you didnt say anything about the ofle 120 F2, except that you was wrong…at least its what you should say

Well I just checked all Leclerc´s armor ingame. S1 is hugely overperforming (primary sources indicate circa 420mm KE). S2 is about where I estimate it should be so it gets a pass. SXXI is underperforming a bit. But OG Leclerc should get its armor nerfed hard, if we want it to be realistic.