We are indeed missing the ranges at which the armor was stated, although it was visibly tested in an indoor firing range, so estimations are in the hundreds of meters
That would be considering x rays are correct, which is unlikely. For example I believe the Leopard 2A7 was also said to have terrible hull armor because the devs managed to give it lower LOS armor thicknesses compared to the 2A6 (or was it the str 122 ?)
do you have the image source or anything, i could do an aproximate calculations based off size and distance
the thickness and shape are correct issue is the value not the size itself
There are no public images of the Leclerc that was used as the test target sadly. We know it was fired at using as the Leclerc ammunition, OFL 120 F1 and the HEAT one. There’s only one picture that is available of an armor module with 3 impacts : 1 APFSDS and 2 HEAT, which show no penetration at the back
However there isn’t specific information on the conditions of the firing range, which the the entire issue at hand, hence why last reports were refused
not very helpful tbh also i see u mean the central part of the ufp i tought you mean like the really angled part
We know the Leclerc was tested basically everywhere and was scrapped after the firing tests. There’s just no public information for the aforementioned test.
We’ll have to wait 40 more years to get them, since France has a 70 years classified time frame lmao
The backplate bulged so we can conclude the APFSDS was in fact REALLYYY CLOSE to perforating it, depending on the simulated engagement distance this would mean ~520mm to at best 540mm KE, which ironically puts it near what the flat part of the hull is currently capable of in WT…
And then on top of that there’s 15mm of UHH steel with a ke coefficient of 2, that we have sources on, front and back of the module, which is effectively 60mm KE, bringing it very close to 600mm of armor frontally.
Anyway, the MFP is probably mostly correct, but the main issue is the UFP. It should be around the current armor around the driver, but around the same level of protection around the MFP. And of course the LFP is basically unarmored
The whole module is 580mm thick…
I believe this is for the add-on composite blocks that are present on the tank’s sideskirt armor, not the tanks actual composite armor.
A hstvl can pen the LFP at the thickest point… Which imo makes no sense if it’s boasting 500mm of composite.
LFP does not have composite, it’s just armored steel, and not much of it.
Go on protection analysis and LOOK at wtf I’m talking about… Its going through the composite block on the lower front plate… Not the single plate below it
MSC is squishy, the composites don’t really do much you’ll get an odd bounce if you are lucky but that’s about it, it’s comparable to a 2a4 at 10.7 it can do ok with leclercs at 12.0 but you’ll be bouncing a lot of shots apart from side shots though occasionally you’ll get the wet spaghetti shot which does nothing to the side of a t90/T80 you all are getting really angry for nothing unlock it and play it, it’s really quite enjoyable.
Don’t get shot best advice
The Army recently released this video. I don’t know if we can get any information from it. It’s about the Leclerc XLR.
Don’t hope anything new for the Leclerc …
When we see that Leclerc s1/s2/Azur and Ito 90 are still 12.0 while against Leo 2a7 and Iris-T you understand that Gaijin doesn’t care about French tech tree.
We’ve been asking for a major update for the Leclerc for two years, and the developers refuse. And then there are the lame excuses: they talk about the first versions that the Swedes (or whoever) tried in real life. They also tell us that the information isn’t sufficient, or—even worse—that the official website of the French Army isn’t reliable… The Army!!
It’s as if they’re afraid the Leclerc is too powerful, and that the USA and Germany aren’t bringing in enough money to get even richer…
Look at the Americans: their non-premium tanks are literally overkill… They release even more overkill premium tanks, and continue to improve these two nations…
France isn’t bringing in enough money for them to make major improvements…
It’s like World of Tanks: free-to-play games, but you have to pay to grind the tech trees. Hoping that the devs realize that comparing them to WOT is not a compliment… When you know that on WOT if you pay you have your shell that penetrates every X days and after that you don’t penetrate anything…
WoT grind is literally free tho? all paid is premium tanks and camouflages and 100% crew (lilke WT but unlike WT it doesn’t change gameplay much to favor the donator)
