The issue is, when you say something is done to “appease you all”, that is by virtue of the function of the English language making the provision that this improvement was heavily pushed for by the people you’re engaging with. I don’t have to put words in your mouth, when you up and said them. Either your grasp of the language is substandard, or you made the provision that people were pushing for it. It is similar to saying “Chally 2’s strike face is only the rating it is to appease you all” to a chally thread.
Don’t overly care to put words in your mouth, pommies struggle with getting words out enough of the time for me to make it any harder would be cruel.
I’m sure there’s never been a time where French kit has been represented in a substandard manner in marketing tools prior to being requested the explicit information by an interested export customer. It can be contested, but I also don’t care to, as I’m not of the mind the hull armour was ever particularly the problem.
Funnily enough, just like the majority in this thread.
The model comes directly from KNDS, specifically Leclerc.glb. While there is also a model of the Leopard, it is not useful. If you look at both models closely, there are clear signs of intentional destruction of certain components.
Even primary docs from GIAT give in inaccurate* size estimation. The proportion are never correct (we tried to check them a while ago). I have not checked the 3D model itself, but I’ll still take it with a grain of salt.
The main thing missing about the Leclerc are actual plan with dimensions, which we don’t have
It means exactly what it means, to appease the French playerbase, and give them less things to complain about, cus y’all love doing that (they’ve done the same with the Americans in case your memory only goes back about 10 minutes into the past). You have no grasp on the history of how whiny the French core playerbase is, and I presume your tenure began only with the new forum, yet you’re assuming the moral highground and talking down to me about my own ability to use my teritary language.
Frankly? You’re a prime example of why I said “appease y’all”. You almost instantly defaulted to insulting my language ability, huge.
This is probably my first time commenting on this thread. Why would these models be accurate? Either for Leclerc/Leo or both. I cannot imagine any reasons why a website designer would have the full schematics to the tank.
They might not be, but the degree to which they’re beliveable is much greater than for many “fan-made” models.
A lot of which assume a much larger armor cavity, to accomodate the “armor value” we’ve got in the game, rather than basing their findings on what’s possible with X decade’s armor technology.
The Leo 2A7HUN/+ model is pretty much entirely empty, fyi. We looked through it the same way we did with the Leclerc XLR model.
Nah, you don’t understand. It makes the woeful state of the chally UFP a point of pride.
Historically, the pommies and French have whined as much as each other. I could point to a number of times the English were catered to in order for the devs to appease them. I stalked the forums well before the swap over, just didn’t engage in it. I’ve a fondness for both French and British equipment.
Because it’s not a schematic. These models would be accurate for the same reason the data on the website is accurate, they’re sourced directly from KNDS. There’s no practical reason to produce a fake or altered version; that would be more effort than it’s worth. Plus, the dimensions all line up correctly, and sensitive areas have clearly been deliberately removed, which strongly suggests it wasn’t made just for show.
Spoiler
Entire turret interior was partly deleted with some rests still visible
There would be no need to model ANY of this if it was just a “for show” model from the start, they obviously took a higher detail model, reduced the detail and removed certain segments to get to this model. Generally all around the place you can see sings of them cutting details, likely for performance and confidentiality.
The leo is the same, this picture is of the interior AFTER i removed big boxes that covered everything up
I don’t even main UK, lmao. You’re so far down the rabbit hole you can’t even be bothered to check who mains what, and simply assume I must main UK because I mentioned X, Y, or Z. Ego’s hurting much?
Usually it’s a safe bet that the insufferable muppets rocking up in the French threads are those still sore from losing the 100 year war. If that’s not the case, great, always fun for a surprise.
You’d think they’d be over it by now, but it’s the nearest I can figure for them wandering into French threads to be snarky muppets.
Agree to disagree. The French discussions at present generally keep to themselves, as opposed to others I could point to. At least they aren’t trying to claim every second tank and/or plane. Or asking for an F22.
In case this will go deeper, there is no need to insult (or to prepare doing so). The model is real and official, made by KNDS. I’m afraid thats just how it is irl, nothing can be changed (unless there is an update which does change it in the future)
It is on topic. OP talks about ways to buff the Leclerc, one of them being armour, and to send reliable info that is for/against that armour should be allowed, always was allowed for such threads
Can’t type you name to @ you so replying to your last message.
I see the 3D model of the tank in KNDS website, but I don’t find the internals. You show the armor thickness at one point with a 2D slice of the front armor, where does that come from ?
Because it would actually be pretty useful to get the UFP to be significantly buffed.
It does correlate quite well to the estimations we initially had about the hull armor but had never found sufficient sources to report it
