The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

VBC in the Italian tree is 9.3. The VBCI 25mm is quite significantly better than the VBC. Maybe not in penetration, but thermal, armor, general survivability. However, I do hope it won’t be any higher than 9.7

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Franch vehicle so 10.3 maybe

Sorry for the late answer it was from the leakers that leaked (Gzabii etc so yeah those always-accurate leaker) rafale typhoon, the new winter event vehicles too.
This link should work tell me if it doesn’t.

Nah, it can’t be higher than the premium vbci 2 with smaller caliber.

Le mangal

Thanks!

The addition of the Thai tech tree makes France look even more like a joke. Japan needed CAS, so they quickly got what they needed (even if it was C&P, it was the essence of other tech trees). France needed ground vehicles but only received some deliberately flawed “crippled” ones (like the Vextra without the F2 shell, Leclercs which performs comprehensively worse than the Type 90 and Type 10), or outdated and uninspired C&P aircraft.

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Leclerc Tropicalise and XLR when???

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hello following the release of the dev server I saw that the apfsds of the vbci only drilled 75mm at 1000 while I have a document which indicates 85mm at 1000 so error or simple nerf?

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It uses a placeholder gun and ammo for now

Hopefully this is corrected before the update officially drops.

Also heavily dissapointed to see many recently accepted reports about French vehicles completely ignored in the recent datamine changelog.

Ideally we could see the VBCI recieve it’s spall liners and correct weapon along with many other reports concerning French vehicles actually implemented before the upcoming update releases.

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unfortunately report refused they need the weight the length the design and many other things…

All informations have been correctly internally reported from what I’ve been told.
Not every report is external. A few TMs are doing report themselves and they do it internally so we can’t see them

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I see the vbci is equipped with airburst ammo which is not implemented in the games. Does anyone know more about this?

https://www.forcesoperations.com/amp/vbci-nexter-est-pret-25mm-airburst-2/

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Yes, i bug reported it

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super cool thank you

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/4B7E8MNtEOuB

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So, as it seems like every bug report about the Leclerc is a complete waste (kudos to the people actually trying tho) maybe the snail could just reclassify them as light tanks? Something that is oneshot through multiple weakspots in the turret face (not the mantlet) and is able to get frontally penned with crew loss by the 23 mm belt with 50 mm flat pen at 10 m of the shilka while barely having any of the perks that other top tier mbts have cant really be considered a competitive top tier mbt in my opinion.

yes yes i know 5 second reload but coupled with one of the worst top tier darts, no laserwarningreceiver, no commander thermals and no armor i’m kinda struggling to see where this tank is supposed to shine? or where all the money for one of these irl goes to? something has to be good about them otherwise france would just buy leopards or any other available mbt for less money and wouldnt be able to sell them to the UAE?

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the fire control system is one of, if not the best in the world. (maybe new tanks like the Type 10 or K2 Black Panther are on par). but in the 90s the Leclerc was the best, the Leopard and Abrams couldn’t even compete. The Leclerc has something like 98% chance of getting a acuate shot while stationary and 90% while moving.

also the reason why the cost is so high is because so few have been made. I think its only about 800 in total 200 for France and 500 for UAE. Compared to the 6000 leopards and 10,000 Abrams.

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thanks for clarifying, in game this is represented as? same gun control like other top tier tanks? i’m completely sure that it has its strong points in real life as i said otherwise it would be pretty hard to justify the highest or one of the highest per unit costs among mbts.

but its rly kind of weird or lets call it an interesting balancing choice that among two top tier mbts of which one has a strong turret face, a ufp that will bounce apfsds in certain angles so better armor, .50 cals, a better dart and a proxy fuze heat fs the tank that has all of these advantages gets buffed one or two patches before anything gets changed on the weaker one…hmmmm (yes it can shoot over its engine deck and has gen 2 gunner thermals but thats it