The Vextra 105 which should have its improved APFSDS…
That would lock changing loadouts in-match or be obvious cheating.
This is where APCR shines,
About the topic,
Gaijin could add the Leclerc MSC Ares to the game either as gap filler between 9.7 and 12.0 somewhere in 10.0 BR range or as premium to promote French tech-tree.
And Leclerc T4 140 mm, for God’s sake, it’s a way more interesting vehicle for event than a Boxer with a Cockerill 3105.
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It’s a nice idea but just imagine T-80BVMs chosing to use 3BM40 or Leopard 2A5 using DM-33.
You just move the problem
I don’t remember about OFL 120 F1B+ (or even if it was ever advertised by Nexter). But OFL 120 F1B appears to use a lighter casing (perhaps to place less stress on autoloader?) than OFL 120 F1A which initially entered service with the French army.
OFL 120 F1B
OFL 120 F1A
There was also this round at some point:
But as for the details? Who knows lol. Nexter doesn’t tell us shit - just like that time they designed a Nizh-like ERA in the early 2000s as well as a hybrid IFV.
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The Netherlands just announced that they are purchasing 46 Leopards 2A8, so yeah. Hope you’re ready boys and girls, because that’s the future of the French tree. And considering gaijin’s unwillingness to fix the Leclerc, probably the only hope we have to have a competitive top tier tank.
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Some improvements would be lovely but Leclerc is one of my best tanks.
I don’t want to rush to conclussions considering not all of the “leak” lists are worth mentioning, but I will say if this were to be true it would be very in character for Gaijin to simply add Leopards as a band-aid “fix” for top tier France ground instead of fixing anything related to the Leclercs.
I’m not saying I wouldn’t be happy to see Benelux Leopards come to the French TT, but I would absolutely HATE for them to be introduced in a way that makes them the primary vehicle or “best/most meta” tank of French top tier while making all of the Leclercs completely irrelevant.
If you add Benelux Leopards with the current state of the Leclercs, that’s exactly what will happen.
You’ll get a repeat similair to Italy’s Hungarian Leopard being the best tank of the lineup because all of the Ariete’s are over BR’d and modeled terribly.
I’ve started to pick up and enjoy War Thunder again, but only in the mid-tiers like France’s 7.7 lineup (my absolute favorite); top tier is a whole other mess that I would rather not touch anytime soon.
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because we all know what france needed was more 12.0 mbts -_-
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If they are added I will defiantly be spawning in the 2A6 and 2A5 before any Leclerc’s. I wonder if we will see the Leopard 2A6EM2 aswell?
We all know why. Why would Gaijin devout any amount of resources to making a minor countries MBTs good when instead they can pay an intern in vodka bottles to Ctrl + C / Ctrl + V the leopards a few times.
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This is why I’m not looking forward to 2A5NL and 2A6NL at all…
If I wanted to play 2A5s and 2A6s, I would just play Germany, lol. (Or Sweden, which has even better ones).
If at least the NL variants were different in ANY way, even just thermals, I would actually be happy; but apparently they are just identical to the German ones.
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ariete: yes contunue plz gaijin XD
It takes longer to develop tanks than to fix tanks.
So these were coming irrelevant of the fixing status of Leclerc…
It’s nice that 10.7 France is starting a lineup though.
Develop? What development, though?
2A4NL is identical to Finnish 2A4, which is nearly identical to 2A4 (a couple extra boxes in the turret).
2A5NL is nearly identical to 2A5 (different smoke launchers).
2A6NL is identical to Finnish 2A6, which is nearly identical to 2A6 (different smoke launchers and skirts shape).
Meanwhile, to keep France relevant, they could have fixed the Leclercs as reported numerous times, but they would rather just add three German tanks.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HgmaEsdZnJDF
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/2cQLnqc95weq
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/3OYYIJZ3sync
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/laZ1T4CQHNtG
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/BKi4NkUxATlZ
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/f0Z2qMBo2GwX
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hqK5WT7TXIgN
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1lM5qQsDJv56
I specially like their response to the missing LWS bug: “the lack of equipment can’t be a bug”. L M F A O. Now bugs can’t be bugs…
God, I regret so much grinding France. If I had ever known the amount of neglect they suffer from, I would have never bothered.
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France ground really ends at 8.7 for me in terms of random battles.
I play 12.0 but only to spade.
France is an air RB tech tree for me primarily because there are so few tanks in War Thunder’s top end I actually want to play in random battles consistently.
Not just identical. They are pretty much the same vehicles.
Iirc they bought 100 of our 2A6s when we got rid of them. Iirc initially the finnish 2A6 was even listed as 2A6NL in some of the files initially.
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Just had one of my best ground matches of all time in Leclerc. It’s handling just feels right.
It is survivable enough, while reloading faster than most as well as beign abel to move faster than most.
Often you are still able to fire after takign a hit. Combined with the constant reload rate that is a noticeable advantage in game.
Not to say I would not glad for any realistic improvements of course but Leclerc is one of the best MBTs in game.