Don’t worry, they’ll have the same useless hull armour as the Leclercs do
At least the turret will be better
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At least their hull armor can resist m735,3Bm42 and other smiliar shells.
Meanwhile even M735 can penetrate Leclerc’s hull while gun shield can be penetrated by 4.7 vehicles.
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The 2A6NL will have the same hull armour as the 2A4 (310mm), which is just enough to stop M735
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2A6 has stronger hull armor than 2A4, what are you even talking about?
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Germany preferrably used 6th - 8th batch hulls with C-Tech for the KWS 2 (2A5 and 2A6 upgrades) but the dutch never made any of those. The last Leo 2NL was delivered in 1986, at least 2 years before C-Tech got implemented. The 2A6FIN, which is a 2A6NL, still has overperforming hull armour ingame. I hope they fix it since they’re working on the 2A6NL anyways.
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Leopard2a6 deliveries started in 2000 and every Leopard who has been upgraded to 2A5-A6 standart recieved reinforced hull armor cause it was one of the requirements for those models.
So unless you have exact documents that proves your claim i’ll take that as wrong.
The 2A6NLs were upgraded 2A5NLs, which in turn were upgraded 2A4NLs. Unless you have proof that the KWS 2 included hull armour upgrades, all 2A5/6NLs had B-Tech hull armour.
The Netherlands were involved in the KWS 2 from the start and were part of the “Mannheimer Configuration”, which cancelled the hull armour upgrades.
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where did you get this information?
Gesamtwerk Leopard 2 by Frank Lobtiz.
Second source by Rolf Hilmes: “For the conversion to the Leopard 2A5, the oldest turrets were taken and modified to KWS turrets using the latest D technology. The KWS turrets were combined with chassis with C-technology protection.”
Since the Netherlands never built any C-Tech hulls, they used those with B-Tech.
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Fair enough, this looks legit.
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Honestly a 2A5NL with 2A4 level hull armor and DM33 max (maybe DM43) would make for a decent 11.7 premium option for France.
Not that it would happen, I assume the leaked leopards will go to the tree and just be C&Ped from the German tree.
With the next French premium being the VBCI-2 40, just to really rub salt in the wound.
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I mean it will prevent win rate from going down :D (cause people won’t play france)
Leclerc S2 and SXXI Missing OFLE 120 F2: Community Bug Reporting System
Despite being delivered to the French army, OFL 120 F2 shells initially produced in the late 1990s never entered service due to problems with the depleted uranium alloy. A more recent production run of this shell entered French service under the designation ‘OFLE 120 F2’ in 2013. In War Thunder, OFLE 120 F2 will trade 2mm of penetration against a vertical target at 0m for better penetration past ~1,000m. The increased penetrator weight will also translate to improved spalling.
Previously, OFLE 120 F2 was an unsuitable addition because it would’ve been modelled using the standard density of DU in-game - that is, 18,600kg/m^3. However, based on new information, the penetrator should have a density of 19,000kg/m^3. This means a very negligible loss of flat penetration under 1,000m, but much better penetration at longer distances.
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well… about that
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YWLtgjkPMqCk
every non german 2a5/6 needs their hull armor nerfed / adjusted to be on the 2a4 lvl
so they aint completly copy paste
yeah… Toxins one of our main leopard guys.
if someone knows sth aboput a leopard no matter which variant toxin propably is the person to ask
This would actually be fine, because this means that the 2A5NL could technically be 11.7 depending on the ammo.
It’s likely not going to happen, but I could see a 2A5NL (with B-tech hull armor) premium being a thing.
eh , we both know thats even more unlikely
gajins plan propably already is putting everything into the tech tree, doubt they changing that so quickly out of nowhere
If this was really the case, then it would be even more underwhelming lmao
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I mean they could always introduce a camo net version of the 2A5NL as a premium.
However you are right. Gaijin will just keep the 2A5NL and 2A6NL armor as the german 2A5/6 and keep them at 12.0