The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

I feel like France is quite rare for GRB in asian server, anyone else feel the same? I normally play on EU but I notice a significant drop in France and some other minor nations player number.

I guess there’s is a significant portion of minor nation mains that are of that nation, so not much people playing Italy, UK and France in Asian server

And don’t forget the F-16AM.

Not really, i mainly do my kills with the leclerc (ok those days not going well i’m too focused on finishing grinding adats and soon american heli, the times i started a game with France i was tilted)

my heli is still semi stock because i’m lazy and have no clue nor the will of how to play it otherwise i nearly did nukes few times with leclerc/ito.

Mirage is for sure really good as cas but this is most likely not on what gaijin rely on for the stats for the leclerc, i do at best 3-4 kills with it but not much more.

For the leclerc sometimes somehow don’t get pen or just loose 1 crew and can shoot back smoothly thanks to the autoloader, the thermals help greatly to find people and i think turret rotation is quite fast compared to other mbt so can easily switch to another target.

One of the big problem is that it really has no armor and any ifv crush you too easily.

…what?

Some of us just like to actually spawn as many times as we can on a match till it’s over.

I am not leaving just because I died twice or thrice. I’m staying till either my SP are gone, or the match is over.

Take this match, for example; I died 5 times, but I got 13 kills (2.6 K/D), 2 caps and an assist in the proccess; and if the match hadn’t ended right then because half the team left having done nothing, I still had MORE vehicles left on my lineup to spawn with and continue the fight.

And yes, 99% of the times, an actual MBT will be more helpful than a 3x BRs lower “support vehicle” with a 25/30mm gun and broken missiles which I still use more for fun/variety than usefulness (gonna replace TKX with RCV whenever I unlock it).

So… shit on me for “being a bad player” for having more than 2 MBTs on my lineups as much as you like; but that won’t stop me from spawning in my comically large lineups to actually support my team till the end instead of leaving after 2 deaths.

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Im from New Zealand, and play in SA severs. I almost never see another Leclerc. every now and then there might be another player, but not often. Its even more rear to see someone playing Italy past rank 3.

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For the third time, “want” and “need” are very different. I never once said that no decent player should want to bring more than two. Why is this so hard to understand for all of you?

“If you need more than 2 MBTs in your lineup, you need to get better at the game”.

Why would I need more than 2 MBTs, if not because I died more than twice and therefore need more spawns? Your initial message suggests that dying more than 2 is being a bad player.

Otherwise, why would needing more than 2 MBTs be a problem?

If every single member on this thread understood this, maybe you should consider that you didn’t express yourself well, rather that “it’s hard to understand to all of us”.

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You know, on European servers, I’m often the only Leclerc, accompanied by about ten T-80/T90. Yes, sometimes we are 2 or 3 Leclerc, but never more.

When I play American or Swedish, I very rarely see the French flag in the game.

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There’s just no reason to play the Leclercs on their current state.

What do they have going for them?

Mobility? Somehow no better than Leopard’s. Bug reported, ignored.

Armor? Barely 1/3rd of the front surface is actually functional due to bug-reported mismodelling that is, yet again, ignored.

Reload? Now everyone’s got the same reload.

Shell? Second worst in 12.0.


All it would take to make them worthy is to fix their mobility (acceleration and top speed) and armor… yet I can already see Gaijin’s “solution” to give it unhistorical DM53 as a band-aid and call it a day.

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Not even SHARD Huh?

Sad noises…

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I mean, they are reluctant to give even DM63 to the historical operators, and even DM53 to 2PL…

So yeah, I doubt they would ever add SHARD, hahah. It seems DM53 is their hard cap.

We will see, maybe after a few years they might be reminded, oh yeah, the Leclerc issue, forgot about that.

Dont forget this gonna happen in atleast 2+ years

Well ever since i builded my new pc my options became larger than before.

If i dont see any improvements on Leclerc’s,Abrams and Merkava’s i might just play this game less and less (actually already started doing it).

Yeah.

As someone who has every nation’s full Top Tier lineups (except for China and Italy), the game just pushes everyone to play either Sweden, Germany, or Russia; and, to a smaller degree, Japan and U.S, both of which are gimped in many ways but their vehicles still manage to be decent in spite of the nerfs.

I really, REALLY try to find reasons to play the other trees and lineups… but I can’t find any. U.K? Israel? France? Pointless. Too many and too big nerfs for them to be decent.

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I tried Israel after ROF buff and let me tell you, they arent in any better shape than before.

At least in Abrams you got Turret protection and depression where you can utilize at long range maps, Merkava on the other hand doesnt even have those features.

As for the Leclerc’s i only play them because how much i love them, plus with historical custom skins they look amazing.

giving them a 5 s reload is just like putting lipsticks on a pig

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Same thing as giving the Arietes unhistorical DM53 when ALL they needed was a lower BR + improved turret armor (Challenger 1-level, presumably; and 3BM42-resistant with WAR kit).

L27, 3BM60, OFL 120 F1, and DTC 125: “We’re still fine. Sure, we’re not DM53 and M829A2, but we’re still fine.”

Granted, I want SHARD on all [top] RH120 standard guns in-game.
NATO interoperability with the pressures that round generates is something I want to see a game do.