You know, on European servers, I’m often the only Leclerc, accompanied by about ten T-80/T90. Yes, sometimes we are 2 or 3 Leclerc, but never more.
When I play American or Swedish, I very rarely see the French flag in the game.
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There’s just no reason to play the Leclercs on their current state.
What do they have going for them?
Mobility? Somehow no better than Leopard’s. Bug reported, ignored.
Armor? Barely 1/3rd of the front surface is actually functional due to bug-reported mismodelling that is, yet again, ignored.
Reload? Now everyone’s got the same reload.
Shell? Second worst in 12.0.
All it would take to make them worthy is to fix their mobility (acceleration and top speed) and armor… yet I can already see Gaijin’s “solution” to give it unhistorical DM53 as a band-aid and call it a day.
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Not even SHARD Huh?
Sad noises…
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I mean, they are reluctant to give even DM63 to the historical operators, and even DM53 to 2PL…
So yeah, I doubt they would ever add SHARD, hahah. It seems DM53 is their hard cap.
We will see, maybe after a few years they might be reminded, oh yeah, the Leclerc issue, forgot about that.
Dont forget this gonna happen in atleast 2+ years
Well ever since i builded my new pc my options became larger than before.
If i dont see any improvements on Leclerc’s,Abrams and Merkava’s i might just play this game less and less (actually already started doing it).
Yeah.
As someone who has every nation’s full Top Tier lineups (except for China and Italy), the game just pushes everyone to play either Sweden, Germany, or Russia; and, to a smaller degree, Japan and U.S, both of which are gimped in many ways but their vehicles still manage to be decent in spite of the nerfs.
I really, REALLY try to find reasons to play the other trees and lineups… but I can’t find any. U.K? Israel? France? Pointless. Too many and too big nerfs for them to be decent.
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I tried Israel after ROF buff and let me tell you, they arent in any better shape than before.
At least in Abrams you got Turret protection and depression where you can utilize at long range maps, Merkava on the other hand doesnt even have those features.
As for the Leclerc’s i only play them because how much i love them, plus with historical custom skins they look amazing.
giving them a 5 s reload is just like putting lipsticks on a pig
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Same thing as giving the Arietes unhistorical DM53 when ALL they needed was a lower BR + improved turret armor (Challenger 1-level, presumably; and 3BM42-resistant with WAR kit).
L27, 3BM60, OFL 120 F1, and DTC 125: “We’re still fine. Sure, we’re not DM53 and M829A2, but we’re still fine.”
Granted, I want SHARD on all [top] RH120 standard guns in-game.
NATO interoperability with the pressures that round generates is something I want to see a game do.
Why would anyone want to see SHARD ammunition on Leopards when they can have DM73-83?
This is pretty much insult for Rheinmetall and Leopards.
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They can have both.
Make top tanks like the lower BR stuff. All the rounds [the gun is capable of withstanding the pressures of in accordance with interoperability]! Give players options!
I try to justify the unhistorical munition choices by imagining that, in an all-out war, currently historical operative munitions are depleted in the early stages of war and NATO starts just sharing available munitions hahah
But I would very much rather have everyone have their historical shell choices instead anyway.
Indeed. If SHARD is to be implemented, it should be for Leclerc XXI and XLR (whenever it comes), which are the only planned operators for this shell so far.
The Leopards should get DM63/73/83, the Abrams should get M829A3 and A4, etc.
Keep some identity to firepower!
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yeah, the dm 53 isnt even that big of an upgrade specially when the cl3143 spall more and the war kit giving you 20mm of extra protection feels insulting to human intelligence
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Armor spalls, rounds fragment.
No.
Leopards should only have Rheinmetall ammunition, not the other way around.
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OFL F1 is locally produced DM43.
RH120s should get realistic ammo options, not just what militaries used IRL.
“Realistic, not just what’s used IRL” is like saying “a hexagonal sphere”…
If SHARD came for every 120, then every other shell would be pointless, redundant and abandoned; and it woul strip away the identity off the firepower of these nations’ vehicles.