Personally I’m taking the “never spend another dime on this game” approach
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… What? Both the Leclerc and Type 90 have paper armor and are super easy to one shot.
Also, the Leclerc has much better sights and thermals.
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Turret of Type 90 could be penned, not for Leclerc though.
vs 3BM43
not much, but still a little improvement :P I know it looks like the turret is actually worse, but I’ve tried, the entire type 90 turret is penetrable.
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Y’all should know by now the armor analysis tool is not representative …
- what’s the point of comparing the Leclerc with the Type 90 ? The Type 10 is a relevant comparison
Well they said it was inferior to type 90 if you would track back a few notes and get them down to 11.0, which I simply said it is not fair.
I disagree. Removing the round would kill the lineup the French have at top tier. Since you want the SXXI for sure, I better take a bunch of Leclercs that are just as capable firepower-wise, than to shaft the machines with a less potent round, meaning they become less effective in the full lineup.
That’s why the Leclercs aren’t that terrible. They can punch in their weight class. You only have to play them like they are paper.
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If you need more than two MBTs in your lineup, you need to either get better at the game or reevaluate how you allocate crew slots.
Bug/historical reporters definitely deserve all the respect.
What’s annoying from my perspective is they can have an OFL 120 G1 Leclerc prototype for 10.7 and it’d at least be the start of that lineup.
USA having standard M1A1 0.7BRs lower than the first Leclercs is wild as well, granted Leclerc’s hull can be fixed, M1A1 is stuck with it.
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Did you look at the french tree ? There is nothing else at top tier, between 9.7 and 12.0 there is only void.
Sure if you have grinded air you also have cas and if you took time you can have a good heli but no light tank only a spaa.
Ground players would end up with 4 leclerc and 1 ito because there is just no other options.
Maybe mephisto too but i don’t see anyone using it at this br.
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It takes courage to play MEPHISTO in 11.7/12.0, the missile is a simple charge that does almost no damage to this BR. (I tried and frankly it’s not fun)
The only tank I could see at this Br would be the Vextra 105 (and even then it’s rather rare to see one)
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I can’t like everyone’s posts.
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I don’t know for me it goes well, even russian tank by shooting their era part stupidly get anhilated it’s funny.
(as i understood pen should normally be higher than that and if it used hot 3 it would leave no chance to tank that don’t have the era to defeat tandem missile)
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You must aim better than me (which is not difficult) but I can’t kill Russian tanks.
Sorry that just bs.
Consistent line-up requires at least 3mbts+1Spaa+1 Plane+1 helicopter and optional IFV.
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Is your balance department completely unaware of the concept of survivorship bias? I tried to phrase this politely and this is the best I got. I do think it is about time your organisation check this, as if they are not then they’ve no place making decisions regarding the balance of the game.
There are so many ways you could account for the outlier of a small group of very competent players in your datasets to get a far more fair view of how the tanks are actually performing. Or hell, you could just compare how terribly modeled Leclercs/Challys/Arietes are compared to big 3 tanks. Which are also dubiously modeled, but significantly closer to reality than what we’ve been given.
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Assuming you have five crew slots:
-Leclerc S.XXI
-Leclerc AZUR
-ItO 90M
-Support vehicle (Vextra 105 or Mephisto are the best options)
-Either Tiger HAP bl 2, Mirage 2000-5F, or Mirage 4000 for CAS
I have had good lineups than only had one MBT. Any decent player doesn’t need more than two.
I currently have this issue, having only 5 slots to fit in CAS MBTs and Spaa is full enough, I maybe would consider removing Heli/support for an extra MBT, just cause there are times when spawnpoints are of plenty but people are all on planes and the game is lost.
The cheeks of the Type 90 aren’t penetrable with 3BM42 from the front even at point blank to me 🤷♂️
Also, Type 90’s turret has a smaller profile so it’s a bit less likely to be hit.
But frankly it’s essentially a cripple fight. Both have terrible armor, and what little they do have is in the areas they’re the less likely to be hit.
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The other thing I might say is Japan is basically US with CAS so France is a bit less likely to bring so much CAS, since the ITOM might actually be useful. I am deciding whether for my Chinese lineup Tor is worth giving up VT4, Japan faces same issue, is type 81C worth going for if you can just use F15Js.