Why this is even a discussion I have no idea, continuing it serves no purpose.
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Question for french mains, does anyone have any pictures of how 4th gen thermals look by any casuality? Im curious
Hey again. As mentioned in the other threads, there are no clear definition of 4th gen thermals. However from academic research and guessing, it probably revolved around havngafull HD or higher resolution and multi colour rendering
I was mostly curious to see a pic taken with it, since it seemed interesting
The only image I’ve come across that shows the abilities of 4th gen thermals. Make of it what you will lol:
A quick explainer on the differences between 4th gen and previous generations
Unfortunately, the French presented a 4th gen detector in 2009 but since then there’s been nothing but silence - the relevant companies don’t even submit papers to SPIE anymore it seems. The first image comes from a Chinese paper, from what I was able to find the Chinese have also developed a 4th gen thermal imager though it’s still heavily in the experimental phase and probably nowhere near production.
That said, the M10 Booker’s CITV will most likely be using the French 4th gen thermal imager so hopefully something can be learned through American channels in time since the French are characteristically not saying shit…
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Interesting, thank you for sharing info
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German doctrine : we are going to firmly dig ourselves in a trench and wait for the Russian tanks to arrive
Meanwhile, French doctrine :
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That is not true actually. Leopard 1 priotised Mobility over firepower and fire power over protection.
‘‘Modern’’ maneuver warfare was heavily influenced by German troops post WW1. On the estern front during WW2 doctrine at some point simply met reality.
The Cold War would have been fought defensively by NATO though German front line troops would have attempted a mobile defense while on the retreat.
When it is said that with Operation Serval France fought a Lightning War in Mali, it is clear where that term comes from. In Germany itself, especially in publications pre WW2 concerning doctrine, the term Blitzkrieg or something similar was never used.
Damn man, you must be fun at parties
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I endevour.^^
only if the suspension worked that well in game
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I have my doubts regarding most mbts or even mediums.
Tanks in WT don’t even match the mandatory capability of obstacle climbing (usually 1m). They don’t get up said obstacle. So suspension and traction wise, it is quite… below the poweer of the real thing.
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We will never see that power ingame …
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I would say that while modelling that would likely be very complex for the game, we already have the entrenching tool.
Tanks just need to have better traction modelled rather than just being cars with treads.
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But the matter is that it is not about entrenching. It is about how this tank was fully able to free itself from the position it was in. In WT, this is simply not possible. In fact, you need the time the tank needed to push through that chunk of earth to reverse out of the ditch with not resistance at all.
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The entrenching mechanic means we already have something to build on for pushing dirt to be able to maneuver in and out of those kinds of holes.
Which is why I said we only really need traction to be modelled better.
Bear in mind, WT does not model tracks in their entirety. They have specific contact points that does not run the full length of the track, noticeably missing at the front/back face of the track. The can cause some… interesting situations where your physical track is touching the ground but it cannot move.
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Gaijins ground physics are awful in general, traction is poorly modeled… Tank track physics are non-existent.
For example, if one side of the track is broken and falls off… The tank would not pivot. It would then solely be able to drive forward or back with the opposite side track. There is no force that causes the road wheels to brake or would allow it to pivot without differential movement of both sides tracks.
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