Thats normal, they shouldn’t have got changed, my question was about low-speed mostly/hull traverse, but thanks for the infos.
Yeah but what I said is that I got the same numbes as Spanish_Avenger. I just reach the marks sliiightly faster than him because of the crew, but not because of any fix. Doesn’t feel any different at all.
Edit to add; 0-20km/h in less than 2 secs. 0-30km/h in less than 3,5 secs.
I don’t know if that’s different than before.
All good.
this issue seems to have been corrected, I just tried with my S21 and it turned in 8-9 seconds
Keep in mind that the video doesn’t show neutral steering. I’m still turning at about the same speed of the video if I turn with only 1 tread. Neutral steering is indeed at about 9 seconds.
Yes, I made the bug report about it a long time ago : Rptd: [2.9.0.56] - Unusually slow rotation speed of both the Leclercs' hull ("Neutral pivot gear turning speed"). - Documented Ground Reports - War Thunder - Official Forum
It was fixed a few months ago. But the patch we just received today made the Leclercs’ hull traverse a little bit faster (about 10% faster).
French APFSDS should have 0% chance of ricochet at 80°
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/6EVJEIdiGuo7
Oof… you guys, today I was penned by a BMP-2M through the front composite and my fuel tank exploded… Maybe the composite part was a just a rendering error, but nonetheless, exploding because of this makes the Leclerc honestly pretty much a glass cannon.
There was something about a 40mm armor plating around the fuel tank, no? Because I finally found some images ofthe hull of the Leclerc and it shows that the fuel tanks on the floor are made of plastic, but have another plate - the hull floor so to speak - on top of them.
first time?
Yes… actually. Just as the French intended I guess…
Here’s 2 images of the Leclerc hull floor. I am sorry, I do not know how to create spoilers in this new forum.
Important 2nd floor perspective:
And then there’s this plan I’ve found:
Now in regards to the 40mm armor plating around the fuel tank, I’d already consider that an armored fuel tank. But if Gaijin does not, there’s probably a lot of hope: Because as you can see in the plan that I have here, the right fuel tanks are described as “Réservoirs structuraux”, just like the front fuel tank was described. In other words: If they classify as external fuel tanks ingame, they are of the same design and thus should be treated the same (Which most likely means a plastic container that actually holds the fuel, surrounded by the 40mm walls).
And we should get a floor with the appropriate cutouts as an armored layer over the fuel tanks on the floor. I do not have the time to create a bug report - but could someone take this task upon him?
I really wish Gaijin modelled the lower fuel tanks as external, with the proper bulkhead included…
Dying to fuel tank fires/explosions on Leclerc is possibly its biggest weakness!
The one in the front appears to be external. But the lower ones… well, not such luck, I believe. Looking at the images, they are not shielded fully and thus can’t really be considered external… But at least they have the bulkhead
İ mean fuel tank with 40mm bulkhead can be considerable as external if you wanna improve Leclerc’s survivability.
Guess its up to Gaijin at this point.
Give me some hours.
Thank you for the quick work. Is there any source that describes the front fuel tank specifically as a structual one? Because that will nail this topic down and we’re 100% solid.
But there’s a hole in the floor through which you can clearly see the tanks. You can hardly argue with that, unfortunately. But we can ask for them to model the floor as a layer of armor. That may help with spall that usually hits this area and sets them ablaze.
@WaretaGarasu Could I ask you to look into another report for exactly that? The floor that covers the bottom fuel tanks at least partially? It is colored in blue on the diagram of the internals. If we get them as internal armor, we may have won a little bit more in regards to survivability.
For this, this image might also help a little:
Also, I promised to provide some statements about armor and speed out of a book and I will tomorrow.
From an updated Leclerc diagram i had laying around, which is what i have been using.
That is the issue as you said, it covers it partially, as you can see:
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That wouldn’t probably be an issue, since there is also the turret covering a good part of this holes:
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i doubt fuel tanks exploding on the belly would hurt the crew, but according to Gaijin classification of things in fact it is internal since there really isn’t a single bulkhead keeping off the fuel tank explosion.
It is worth making an attempt at getting that bulkhead into the game, no? At worst it does nothing, but at best, we get less instant kaboom death.
Great that you use that. Is is even more detailed. And thanks to your bug report I actually understood that the front fuel tank is one large tank, going all the way up to the filler port on the right side in front of the turret. Which finally solved my age old question on how the hell they fill that tank up. Because in my reality, having an exclusive fuel tank you cannot easily fuel up made no sense to me. But now that I saw the updated version with the proper coloring of the entire front tank, I finally grasped it.