So if we recap
The Leclerc has a problem with his UFP with the titanium armor of the S3 with the rotation of the turret with the hyperbaric engine there are no machine guns on the roof.
all these problems we were proven so why they are still not repaired because gajin this want “realistic”
i would say these are definitely the primary changes the focus should be survivability and speed over firepower (reload and round)
Unfortunately the Leclerc has several years on the game nothing has been done, even with solid evidence they will not do anything.
We are not a major country in the game.
which is funny because i would argue Frances tree would be just as big as Germany or bigger shame it came into the game so late. i also think gaijin is actually scared to buff the Leclerc because of how the s1 came into the game 3 years ago it was very very op and its armor was very strong for the time
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Funny thing is the igla is wildly underperforming. It has some lateral thruster arrangement that makes it behave as if it had thrust vectoring. There’s no diagrams of the motor anywhere so it’s impossible to bug report even though there’s footage of it in use.
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So what is the way to prove to gajin that Leclerc needs these bugfixes? make new bug reports?
spoke to them? cry ?
take our yellow jackets and put us on the roundabouts?
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İts simple.
We need to play with our Leclerc’s badly so we can reduce those win rates to %30, after that they will buff it since only thing they care are winrates.
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If you have the necessary proof for a correction then yes, by all means make a new bug report.
But since most info is still classified, the best thing we can do at this point is to continue arguing in favor of changes in the hope that we can (finally) convince gaijin.
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unfortunately in most cases there has been a report
hyperbaric engine
turret rotation
UFP
titanium armor of the S3
All with solid evidence but ignored by gajin because the Leclerc would become a monster and it could overshadow the major country of the game.
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That’s not how that works.
Evidences, in concordance with Gaijin’s standards when it comes to the documentation required for bug reports, were given to them.
But they still choose to ignore it.
The rule is that if Gaijin doesn’t want to do something, they’ll always find an excuse not to do it.
We can’t simply crash the winrates of the Leclercs, because France’s players are on average the best at the game.
So what should we do ? It’s simple, really. If we can’t sink the winrate of the Leclercs ourselves, we need to attract players from the other nations so that they can do it for us.
Thus, we should put pressure on Gaijin to finally get a top tier squadron vehicle.
Since, most of the time, top tier squadron vehicles are an export version of the top tier MBT, I suggest we ask for the Leclerc UAE.
After all, France is one of the last nations that still doesn’t have a top tier squadron vehicle …
Hell, even Sweden as the squadron T 80 U MBT.
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Maybe if they get bomb for second time might do the trick
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I made a bug report on the Leclerc ufp, if someone can give me their opinion and maybe help me improve the bug report, thank you
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/f0Z2qMBo2GwX
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If you want advice: Forget it, Gaijin doesn’t really care about Leclerc. When they have Nerf the Leclerc they wasted no time but when it comes to helping him a little and making him competitive AND accessible to everyone, not only to very good players who find him very good but that these same player should stop looking at the end of their noses and also think of others who are not as good as them, in this case, Gaijin takes years without doing anything. The only thing that would make them move their buttocks would be to provide them with official documents but they don’t want them, because, classified as defence, Like many high-tier vehicles, the only difference is that they allow themselves fantasies and suppositions more advantageous for some nations than for others.
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I understand well and I know it well but we cannot say that there is nothing done on our side
Apart from making Gaijin understand that they have a Toxic policy, I don’t see well. And that talking about communications is good, but you also have to remind them that “It’s your community that’s important and it’s your community that pays your bills”
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Gaijin looks at far more than win rate. They have never used just win rate and never will.
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completely agree with you on this point I know very well that they will ignore my observation like that of the titanium shielding of the S3 which is dated, but at least I have a clear conscience
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Gaijin’s first excuse is always about winrates in these situations.
Sure there are other elements comes into situation but this doesnt change the factor.
So i dont know what you’re talking about.
They don’t use excuses, and they never address win rates because that’s classified information.
They’re not going to indicate win rates of vehicles as that could lead to players doing matchmaking manipulation.
Leclerc ain’t moving around cause of its win rate.
Oh don’t worry I know. Earlier this thread, I linked to a video of Spookston, a high profile community contributor, saying that he gave official documents from the US army about the Bulldog proving that gaijin were wrong and they still chose to ignore it.
But even if the chances are slim, it’s stil technically our best shot at getting the changes we want.
I’m also in favor of adding the Leclerc UAE as a squadron vehicle as I proposed the same thing earlier in the thread since France is long overdue a squadron vehicle, but I doubt it’ll have a significant effect on the win rates. Ultimately the people who’ll play the Leclerc UAE are people who are grinding/intend to grind the French tree in the first place, so it’s essentially the same pool of players as the current one.
Technically speaking, the best way to demonstrate that the Leclerc is underperforming would be to get people who don’t play France but other nations, like Russia or Germany for example, to play the Leclerc. Then gaijin would see how much the Leclerc underperforms compared to its peers.
But the only way of doing that would be to add the Leclerc UAE to the Russian or German tree instead of the French one, and that’s a no go for everyone.
They have repeatedly denied changes to vehicles on the basis that said vehicles performs “fine”, so it’s at the very least their main criteria for implementing a change or not.
Last example to date would be the pantsir, which according to them perform as well as systems using the VT1s so they refuse to nerf it.
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