You can see that the barrel goes in resting position ( -1.8 Degrees ), and stays there for roughly 5 seconds, which is exactly how much the reload take. You may ask me why i had to specify this detail, and the answer is quite simple. The gun needs to be in resting position before even starting the reload, which is why we can confidently say the reload is 5 seconds, as can be seen on this video.
The reason why only 6 shots have been made in one minute of course is quite simple to explain as well, since the Leclerc FCS had to calculate and hit every target at that speed (50km/h), this has nothing to do with the reload.
Also, following your logic, every manually loaded tank should reload slower while moving as well, as i pointed out.
Reload is more than just the time from open door to closed door though.
It includes the gun laying to the position.
And just cause that’s not animated in War Thunder currently doesn’t mean it’s not simulated [very simplistically mind you] by having the longer reload.
Yes, Abrams and Leopard loaders can do a 7 round sprint at 3.6 seconds per round.
Yes, Leclerc can load in 5 seconds gun level.
Type 10 3.5 gun level.
T-72 less than 7.1 seconds gun level and round in next slot.
So yeah. In the game’s current system loading is slower, but it’s simple and thanks to that less intensive as well as faster in all other situations where reload would slow.
False, reload is just reload, what you mean is reload process, and its not currently implemented in War Thunder correctly.
You’re wrong, its even less that that, however at the cost of damaging the tank, moreover that reload time couldn’t be implemented because of balance in fact, since having a reload time of 3 if not less second could cause unbalancing.
Actualy proof you don’t readed, gun doesn’t have to be leveled, it does have to be in resting position.
T Series generally don’t need to have the gun on level, though i’d give you that, because im not 100% sure on that.
Cool, can they do that while closing blast doors in the process, you have to remember this fact, having the blast doors opened during the whole process doesn’t matter, because in War Thunder this is not the case, also its probably prohibited during an actual conflict since it would affect the survability of the tank.
Also, following your logic, shouldn’t those tank be affected as well if the barrel is not leveled out? Of course it would be harder to reload if the gun is fully elevated, or if the tank is moving, yet the Abrams for example reload at 5 seconds constantly, for 5 seconds, doesn’t matter the situation its in.
Actually for manually loaded tanks, having the gun elevated is easier for the loader, as it means that the breach is at its lowest point (making it easier to drop the shell than to have to elevate it). Hence why you’ll often see Abrams and Leos elevating their gun just after firing. But your point still stands : only pure reload time is considered (and confirmed by gaijin themselves). Gun elevation, crew tiredness, reloading while moving… is not taken into account. Gaijin mostly goes on the fastest reload theoriticaly possible then adds a bit more for balance.
However, and I’ll keep hammering on that, the leclerc is proven to be able to reload in those 5s, and I, just like many others, would say that having this reload wouldn’t put the Leclerc out of balance. Heck, they even did it for the M1s
The pre-production Leclercs were produced in 1989 which means that they’d probably use the armour tested by the British in 1990 which was a minimum of 430 KE and 800 CE
Official testing footage from the French national archives website shows that the turret traverse is 45°/s
Gen 1 commander and gunner sights
Should have 90km/h top speed like the production Leclercs
Would only have access to OFL 120 G1
Ideally it’s given its 5 second reload
10.3/ 10.7 seems like a good BR, but with the ‘French battle rating tax’ the devs would apply it would probably be 11.0. It would no doubt sealclub 10.0 though.
Also, not as if there's plenty of support vehicles to add around that BR to make a line-up anyway
I just want France to get a Premium/Squadron Top Tier vehicle so that their statistics plummet and Gaijin can’t justify their nerfs by stating that “muh they OP bcuz statistiks say so”. :(
Maybe a Squadron United Arab Emirates Leclerc would do the trick.
Well, Squadron Vehicles don’t necessarily have to be worse than some of the Top Tier tanks.
I mean, look at M1A1 AIM! One of the best Top Tier American tanks, only behind M1A2 SEP possibly (since SEPv2 is just SEP but heavier and slower).
Also, according to this suggestion, this tank would be the heaviest Leclerc at 57 tons (like AZUR) and its different powerplant would make it accelerate actually slower than the other Leclercs.
So it would basically be a heavier and slower Leclerc S1, while I wouldn’t say the bigger zoom sights aren’t an advantage and the roof MG isn’t that much of a big deal. CITV thermals is nice though.
You generally would be right, however for the moment Gaijin haven’t modeled Hyperbar yet, so i suspect the mobility would be the same roughly.
You are right, however M1A1 AIM does for example lack CITV’s and a better round. Personally i think the only way Gaijin could add the Leclerc UAE as a squadron vehicle would be with a worse round, however this is a thing only Gaijin can deduct.
The gun on level is mentioned in diagramm which is used for T-72/T-64/80 reloads, so it is accounted in reload time IRL, but instinct in game in any form.
This isn’t a meme at this point, it’s a fucking documentary.
Lmao. Yeah we saw what happened with the TPK and AMX-10P: Barely added to fill a gap only to be receive an increase in BR, recreating the void they were supposed to fill.
And the AMX-40 and Roland have been without a lineup for years, not too mention the entirety of the tree lacking light tanks and support vehicles (the ELC bis doesn’t even get spottig FFS). They seriously expect us to believe that now they’re going to address it?
Yeah, not fucking likely.
