The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

Considering how gaijin apparently misrepresented some of the bug reports in that Challenger dev blog, I’m really not sure such a blog post for the Leclerc is something I want to see honestly.

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Why… You don’t want to be disappointed like the rest of us? Lol

At least they will tell us directly that they don’t see any problem with the Leclercs and/or that they don’t have enought information about it. No need to sugarcoat it. Then, we can stop having expectatives and rest assured nothing’s going to change.
That, or they admit several thingss are wrong and they’re on track to fix them. Depends on your optimism.

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25T and TO90 might recieve a vertical stab. https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wmA80sxrbzgo

Penetration would still be an issue at 8.0, but this would help them both immensely against other stabilized tanks.

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Yeah i think implementing the EMBT would be a good decision, it has the same chassis armor then the 2A7V, so no difference there, the turret is weaker then a leopard because its just way thinner at some point and gajin gonna screw it either way because armor values arent known. Cannon is a bit weaker then L/55 as well, but workable.
Since Shard is questionable, it can just be given DM53 for france as well as for germany because its a shared project and the gun should be able to fire DM53.
The APS system is in the game already as well.

Overall gajin could implement the EMBT for both france and germany at any coming update. At least i dont see anything against it, since france could do with another tank and the XLR with higher caliber gun is unlikely in comparison

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No, give it SHARD and call it a day. Its beyond embarassing that we are in 2024 and we still have DM43 as a main round, let alone Leopards that should atleast have DM63/73. Devs was thinking about adding M829A3, i do not see the issue about adding SHARD then.

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Of course that would be the optimal solution, but we know how gajin is and would freak out if USSR would totaly fall behind on rounds

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Thats too bad for them then, they should’ve developed a better round.

They did, it’s just that the ammo is too long to be used in the autoloaders 99% of their tank fleet is equipped with.

Which is just simply IRL skill issue; should’ve just developed a new autoloader alongside this new ammo.

I’d wait with SHARD for XLR personally. Current S.21 and AZUR can get DM53 just like Arietes did. Of course that would require Gaijin to stop hating on France which probably won’t happen.

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When we had Leclerc S1, we said “let’s wait for Leclerc S2”. When we had Leclerc S2, we said “let’s wait for Leclerc S3 (Leclerc S.XXI)”. When we had Leclerc S.XXI, we said “let’s wait for Leclerc AZUR”. And now, 4 years later, we have 4 Leclerc variants and all the Leclercs are all still bad MBTs.

There’s no point in adding more Leclerc variants unless they fix the Leclercs.

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I mean true but adding DM53 to current S.21 and AZUR would freshen up current Leclerc. I just think SHARD would be too good for the current game and should be reserved to later Leclercs.

I will be honest : adding a new round to the Leclercs won’t change anything.
You’re still going to aim for the exact same weakpoints on your targets, while the core issues of the Leclercs will remain : no armor whatsoever, reload rate is too low, speed is just average.
A new shell is the last thing we need IMO

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Never said it would fix the leclerc. Fixes from our list are very needed obv but as I said - a little bit of fresh air wouldn’t be bad

Yeah. To be honest any buff would be welcome at this point …

2000+ replies and still no changes??? Where is the Hyperbar system (literally a second engine stuck to the main engine to boost it at lower rpm), where is the armor (are we gonna be stuck with prototype armor forever??), where is SHARD, where is our bloody HE round (we don’t have a he round at top tier lol), spall liners??? (Documents from NEXTER confirmed it), reload??? (Abrams got buffed out of nowhere can we at least get the right one for the Leclerc?), LWS???, lower thermal footprint thanks to the hyperbar system???, I’m not gonna continue but you get my point I think…

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lol Gaijin need to realize there are better armies then Russia and for sure, better quality. The prime of Russia was indeed the USSR (when will they also change the USSR flag in top tiers, this is nonsense and even strange actually). USSR made wonderful vehicles, Russia only make them on paper, that’s the main issue right there actually

Can"t wait how the SU57 will be in game, I bet it will be fucking OP when it’s totally inefficient IRL (bad results in every competitions compared to other top fighters)

There are way better MBT’s than Russian ones today, Gaijin need to accept it and give to the NATO their real vehicles and cnaracteristics

At this point I’m just hoping a MASSIVE buff on a coming patch for the Leclerc lmfao (5s reload, better armor, better shell) but I’m dreaming, it’s not even Gaijin the issue here, it will be the fanbases (particularly the USA ones with their 30% victory ratio who will cry so much)

And Considering also the fact that the AMX 30 Super is not longer available in the shop, France is the only nation without a top tier MBT right now, I’m betting on a future premium Leclerc (maybe the prototype) and I think AT THIS time they will massively buff the Leclerc as they did with the Abrams when they released the Click Bait, so people will be more tempted to buy the premium Leclerc

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M829A3 would be worse than M829A2, at least in-game, because of a lower muzzle velocity; unless the devs count the anti-ERA tip as part of the main penetrator (in which case the round would have a funny 400mm RHA pen at 60*).

As i know gaijin didn’t used standard formula for 3BM42 mango because it consists from 2 rods and configured it manually. Maybe A3 will be manually configured too