Too many issues in 1 bug report they wont accepted
Ok, fine. If this is to much work for them then make a report by yourselfs about everything and make a separate reports for everything. You can use my report and add your sources if you have, coz if i will make the same report it will be sort of spam… If you realy want to make Leclerc realistic than it isn’t a big problem for you, is it? But if you just want to criticize me about “to much for one report” because im trying to do something then you are just useless and won’t help with Leclerc issues
I agree with you, 72kph is enough. Ultimately, the most disturbing thing about the Leclerc mobility in the game is its mobility when turning on the spot, and its acceleration, which is truly extremely reactive in real life; the tank in the game is rather clumsy.
IMO in game, I don’t think it’s missing much, apart from:
- its true mobility: turning on the spot + acceleration 0-32kph <6 seconds
- a simple overhaul of its overall composite armor with its own values against kinetic and chemical shells + spall liner around the crew positions + and this is the most important: protection equivalent to approximately 130mm RHA in two spaced plates (exactly the layout of the ten years older AMX-32 (129mm)) below the actual shaped overhauled composite glacis module that would make up the lower frontal plate. This will finally allow it to withstand head-on fire from most autocannons, something that is sorely lacking for an MBT like the one they’ve modeled. It’s laughable, if not shameful…
- fuel tanks that don’t explode except when penetrated by shells containing explosives, which is quite rare for this type of tank.
With these three simple things in place, it would be perfectly decent for everyone.
Yeap, i noticed a bad turning and acceleretion too, looks like it is nerfed specificaly for this tank… Also it has nerfed brakes, it has sometimes very strange braking, too long and too far from braking point. (If you see the Leclerc braking irl on the video of it braking and if you know about its braking system you will understand what am i about).
The issue with acceleration can be cozed by 10gears in game (it should be 5 gears) and overall gear shifting in game…
Fuel tanks… They mustn’t be able to explode since the fuel is diesel (it can’t explode) but in game we don’t have this mechanic ( ok, gameplay mechanic, it’s fine), but can just decrise a chance for explosion for a bit for diesel tanks( I guess its will be good decition)
Armor was always an issue for Leclercs in game. It is modoled wrongly and values of armor is wrong too. We know about material of armor, how its works, but we don’t have documents that will be 100% reliable. The problem is, that almost all detailed information with proofes is classiefied…( I think we all know what will happen if someone will get it and show here as a source)
The spall liners needs to be added, it is just unbieliviable that they still din’t add them. With spall liners Leclerc will become much more survivable and competetive( it is now pretty enjoyable, survivable and competetive overall but it would be a good addition)
If we will get everything fixed out of here, then Leclerc will become a realy, I mean REALY good mbt and top tier tank. But im losing hope for this to happene now…(ヽ´ω`)
And don’t forget about better shell (at least OFL 120 F1B or maybe OFL 120 F2 or SHARD) anything out of here would be a great addition and we need this (or atleast fix OFL 120 F1) and then we will be tottaly fine with it
Maybe they’re waiting until they’ve decompressed the BRs into ground forces to make the changes we’re talking about, and putting the Lerclerc like:
- S1 and S2 in 12.0br with OFL120F1
- XLT-CLARA in 12.3br with OFL120F1,
- S21 and AZUR in 12.7br with OFL120F2
- and finally XLR in 13.0br with SHARD.
It must be kept in mind that there’s a huge difference between a Leo2A5 and a Leo2A7V, yet both at 12.0br, they too will one day be decompressed, and that won’t be a bad thing.
One thing is certain, we can’t know what they have in mind, don’t they care? Are they waiting for the right moment? It’s hard to say.
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In reality, the armor capabilities of current tanks are shrouded in secrecy, and we can only speculate based on the technical documents and videos that have been released. Therefore, as a general rule for the game, the Gen3 MBT should be guaranteed protection of +100mm of the tank’s shell penetration, and a convincing differentiation is needed. Even with composite armor enabled, the Leclerc’s camera will still function as a weak spot.
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Why would China be the worst nation? They have evolved past the russian slop that is the t90 and onwards.
They even recently made a stride towards a better MBT design by going with an unmanned turret.
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Maybe… The problem for tgem us, that they are running out of top tier tanks already and after a few updates about top tier they won’t have tanks to add for some nations
Neither will most nations.
Theres one more MBT for thr USA, one more for germany, one more for Britain.
Japans pretty much out.
China still has a selection of lights and possibly other prototypes that never got chosen like the wz1001.
Italy is running out or has.
Sweden pretty much hss
Russia has very limited additions next possibly a new 80 BVM then they’re out.
Bar older prototypes like the 292.
So yeah nah, everyone’s pretty much running out of top tier MBTs to adf
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2a7Q, 2a7+
2a7a1, 2a8, 2 arc 3.0, ATD, embt 2022, embt 2024. KF51, Challenger 130
Gajins just lazy. Germany could flood ground with ever stronger becoming mbts
French got the embt series, leclerc evolution, xlr , terminator ,as well.
The no more mbt thing is way less then u think
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Danish and Norway Leopards.
They also ordered 2A8 and upgrading their 122 fleet.
Sweden still has many leopards that can receive.
By that standard theres a multitude could be added to most nations then.
The 2a7Q for example is just the one from Quitat.
Britain could get the Jordanian CR2s as well as the CR1s that are brought up to a modern standard with falcon turrets.
uUsa could get abrams 140 was it as well?
The ARC 3.0 is still a prototype and realistically shouldn’t be added (yes CR3 also shouldn’t of been added tbh) IMO
Cr 130 could be split across Germany and Britain.
Both EMBTS are just tech demos so generally we’ve not got much of an idea of the actual capabilities of them.
Leopard 2A7A1 i would love and i actually didn’t even remember the A1 in which i must apologise.
I was refering to the A8, primarily due to being tired.
Alas, we still only have a smattering of ground vehicles for each tree at top tier to add MBT wise.
Kf51 and light tanks do leave most nations with quite a sizeable chunk of vehicles to be added.
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As far as im aware they dont have either yet.
Also as for Danish and Norwegian stuff they’ve pretty much got their leopards no? Another C&P 2A6 isn’t a new mbt, thats my point.
Shini actually gave a comprehensive list of additional tanks that are potentially added soon
yes and? export variants are completly viable to be added to the developer nations.
See china and the VT series as example
fully functional tech demonstrator, its shown of shooting etc. it is a viable options, we have stuff like the PSO, 292, yak141, T-72M2 Moderna, as you mentioned Challenger 3 already as well
i got no problem with that
but we do?, its pretty much just a 2a7V hull with an Leclerc turret put onto them, the 2024 is a bit more modern with unmanned turret and the nexter cannon, but still 2a7v hull
yeah, he has a bit of a fantasy
he thinks he is gonna get 3 Leopard 2a8 variants. 1 from norway, 1 from sweden and old strv122 upgraded to 2a8 standard.
Denmark not even being a subtree yet would bring 2a7V which he wants, they got 1 uniqueness in having 2a7V with L/50 barrel /short one and L/55 long barrel.
But a lot of his stuff is double counting that more likely would end up as skins
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Denmark got Leopard2A7V which will be another armored leopards.
Since Sweden already has 3 armored Leopards they don’t need to rush.
denmark buddy, norway does not have 2a7V, get your facts straight
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reminds me france gets 2a8 trough netherlands
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Lmao fantasy huh?
Even Sweden doesn’t receive Denmark Leopard it will still get 2A8 and upgraded 122’s.
Seems like you’re the one who’s dreaming.
Mistakes can be happen , try not to be douche next time.