The source: Here is the aiming speed, it specifically says aiming speed
Gaijin: thats not aiming speed
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Well tbf from the source posted it could be argued that it’s not aiming speed.
However a new report with more sources could be done
Prem Leo 2A4…
yeah… we get proto leclerc in tt, but at what cost…
What prototype? Where?
Spoiler
It’s over💔
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We are getting a Leclerc prototype + a premium 2A4 next major update.
I know a lot of people are going to complain about the premium 2A4 but if that was the deciding factor of if the proto Leclerc would be a TT vehicle or premium, then I’m glad the 2A4NL was chosen.
Having to pay for the proto Leclerc would be egregious and I’m glad that’s not happening.
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Gaijin does hate France, after all (I’m kidding, chill out). I feel like the Leclerc is a pretty decent tank especially for experienced players, but it doesn’t get the special charm that most of not every other tank might have in battle. While it is quick, the armor and ammunition are on the mediocre side, especially with the fact that the Leclerc has a very capable main gun for it’s generation. I guess all I’m saying is that the Leclerc might need something to show off, you know?
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I don’t mind a L2A4 as a premium since I am done with the TT already, I want more unique vehicles in the TT. Now that we will have a top tier premium, it might be nice to see cockerill 3105 in the TT also.
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granted couldnt they just nearly take the values from the swedish trials for the Leclerc
Overall i feel the Leclerc is the best example of a mediocre tank. Armor is not there (not even on the turret, also one of the biggest breech areas where a pen loves to kill 2 or 3 crew → dead), so long range sniping is suicidal. Capable main gun? not sure, it gets carried by it’s autoloader and 5 second reload even when stock. That it doesnt have a turret basket (yet) also helps it in the playstyle that it shines in, which i feel is similar to the japanese type 10/TKX.
Still doesnt change the fact it is shooting the second worst round in top tier. A near miss on vital parts creates 0 spall, ive never had near missed shots or shots to critical areas failing to do damage in any of the other top tier mbts like i have in the Leclercs. Unable to snipe while having good gun handling with good mobility basically forces you to play the most aggressive and gamedeciding playstyle that also can produce the best results if executed well: Rush into the most contested forward positions trying to fight for flanks and take out multiple enemies in quick sucession. Top tier france players being on the higher end of skill compared to other nations definitely helps it to perform in that playstyle as well as it does.
Now imagine if it had better armor (I can’t judge whether or not it does irl) or had a better dart (which imo at least that it should have. What is the OFL F1s equivalent? KE-w seems like its pretty similar.) With how well France players already perform you’d have the first 13.0 or something tank in the next BR changes.
But i think you’re right, it feels like it has nothing going for it since it plays just like a type 10 with slower reload and worse dart but has slightly better armor. Rushing and forcing enemies to miss shots, everything with armor especially the russian tanks are better, Sniping: Leopards and even challys (probably the only thing theyre good at if only the mobility was not that sluggish) well basically everything except Type 10s are better, Flanking: Type 10s (and possibly the not so chunky abrams) are better. And more controlled, passively holding angles playstyle or slowpushing: The abrams and Leos are better. It’s like in between everything, decent to good at all, master of none. (except sniping, rly bad at that or just usable with extreme caution. Try not to get oneshot through the commander optic ON TOP of the turret by apfsds, however that works)
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Tbh it just says A proto leclerc so it could be anything such as the T4?
sadge
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They’re talking about redesigning the vehicle’s armor… maybe they’ll modify it?
Or maybe they don’t want them to be premium because they know their mistakes.
My guess is that the MSC will be 11.0 with OFL 120 G1 (initially, I know several reports are already being prepared lol), following the Tiger HAD and SEM (which just got moved up to 11.0) and create a lineup at this BR. It could be supplemented with the VEXTRA Pole and some CTA 40 + AKERON carrier, which would be very interesting.
While I don’t have any opinion on the Leo 2A4 premium (on one side it’s good to have a premium, on the other I don’t see it being very popular since the German tree is better overall and has the exact same premium), and I hope a premium unique or/and French vehicle is considered medium term.
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You have to admit that was pretty funny though.
I personally see the MSC being 10.7 given what we know about it.
The armor profile is going to be absolutely terrible on both the hull and turret.
The gun mantlet weak spot area on the MSC is massive… like HUGE… (the left side portion in front of the commander is NOT protected by composite)
That and the armor cavity itself on the hull isn’t anything that even most 105mm APFSDS rounds are going to struggle against…
Combine this with an entirely different autoloader which is given a slower reload rate of 6 seconds and OFL-G1 and I don’t see it being good enough to share the same BR as tanks such as Al-Khalid…
I think it would fit 10.7 perfectly fine; it’s armor is going to be majorly worse than tanks like M1, 2A4, and T-80B but it will enjoy a consistent 6 sec reload rate and good gun handling.
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