Oh yeah, that’s also kind of why I’m not bothering to do anything with that. I’d need to use excerpts from the Leo 2 manual, and I’d rather not get nuked by Gaijin ngl.
And AMX-13s, its such a strange and annoying choice
Gaijin will make something for the game then forget about it immediately, like how they claim “Vextra would need to be raised in BR for its buffs to work” while leaving the Roland and AMX-40, both of which are massively nerfed, to rot
It sucks, but it is sadly how it is
If only the community tackled that instead of blaming nationalistic biases or being nationalistic themselves as often happens (Even here, sadly)
I don’t think the AMX-40 is suffering.
Now that the 2K and bunch of other 10.0s / 10.3s went up in BR, it’s actually one of the best 9.7s right now.
Any buffs to it (like a 6s reload) would just move it up in BR… which I don’t know if that would be worth it.
Well yeah, the issue is that 9.7 is a terrible BR bracket. You get pulled to the 10.7 Leo 2 premium realm more than half of the game, and the rest is basically 10.3, so you still face them the same you usually do.
I’d rather have unnerved vehicles that mostly fight the same enemies and sometime have higher matches (11.0 - 11.3 up tiers are much rarer) with stronger vehicles than any 9.7 tank (except the Russian t series that can still tank rounds in up tiers)
Well then I don’t think it’s a vehicle issue / placement I’d say.
The matchmaker is the problem.
But besides that, the 2A4 / Abrams got nerfed. They are much more easy to kill.
I can get that.
Though AMX-40, Merkava Mk.2D, and Sabra Mk.1 aren’t that bad in a full uptier.
There’s plenty of other BRs where an uptier is much more frustrating (such as 7.7 fighting 8.7s, or 10.7s / 11.0s fighting 11.7s / 12.0s).
Some can, but some can’t.
T-72A / T-64A can’t even survive an UFP shot against the most common round at their own BR (105mm DM33).
T-64B is much better, but its UFP is roughly only ~430mm of protection.
If it’s only facing 2A4s / Abrams – it’s pretty good.
But most other 10.7s / (even 10.3s) things will go through it as well.
Then you get to the T-80UD, which has an UFP that most (if not) all MBTs can’t pen – even in a full uptier… with only the M1A1 having a good chance.
Not suffering, but nerfed to artificially lower its BR to 9.7
Fair.
Though do you want it to get those buffs and be a higher BR?
Yes, along Vextra and maybe Roland (Idk if the proper elevation of Roland would make it worthy of that) Especially since realistic AMX-40 and Vextra are more than capable of 10.3-10.7 (Making a lineup with S. Etendard, 2A4, and the 10.0 Tiger HAP)
I’ll answer your question. No. It would still be shit.
I strongly believe all Roland slingers should be moved down to 9.3 and lower, their missiles are borderline useless.
Fair, surely there’s a system for the ~10.0 that I’m forgetting, but yeah as a France main I wouldn’t know if the missiles are good; I can’t even elevate high enough to use 'em lol
For Germany’s it called Osa-AK (serious), idk if there’s anything for France.
Probably the improved Mistral systems and the various other Crotale stages and whatnot
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I don’t think the AMX-40 is suffering
Not suffering, just a horrendously innacurate depiction.
AMX-40 has been missing it’s turret composite for YEARS now, but Gaijin completely refuses to fix it for lineup/balance issues.
This is as stupid as placing the M1 Abrams at 10.0 with 0 turret composites, and then refusing to give it’s correct armor and adjust it’s BR because of “the lineup” that it was artificially placed in due to how gimped it is.
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AMX-40 missing its turret composite and the Ariete(s) missing their hull composite be like:
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Ye both AMX-40 and Ariete players love suffering the weight penalty for armor that isn’t modeled.
GIVE IT BACK
(Fun fact the AMX-40’s turret armor was removed with 0 reasoning despite GIAT themselves directly stating it exists)
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Didn’t the good ol’ 40 also have Gen 2 thermals not 1?
Mistral 3 would be fairly capable
20G according to Gaijin’s weird calculation on manpads, same range as the current roland (8km officially). Could come on a variety of high mobility platforms
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Sadly I don’t think we will ever get it in War Thunder …
New video on the Leclerc XLR showing him reloading
Just some eye candy for you all, waiting for them to add the XLR soon in the game
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How is the leclerc azure still missing commander thermal imaging?
Since its an HL-80 sight!