The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

Let’s be honest if it’s the actual VBCI 2 mk2, it’s going to be better than ENRC jaguar (in game) because it uses the improved crewless turret of the Jaguar.
The ithers are based of the philoctetes so we will have to see

Do we know the pen of the missile ? And is it tandem ? (also i still am not sure of how tandem works, i understand how it defeats era but if there is no era for example does it pen x2 ?)

You might be right, EBRC has more missiles i guess but that’s about it. I just want the French cute little car with a gun doctrine to continue on in the TT

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Unless I misunderstood your suggestion, you’re suggesting allowing the recon drone to designate a target on which you’ll be able to swing your missile ?

There is absolutely no chance of that ever happening my dude. It’s so game breaking you might as well give it its actual camera and correction on the fly and let players spawn kill the entire team.

No, I think the good ol’ Fire and Forget already in the game is more than enough for the current Akeron.

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If you consider wikipedia a source it’s tandem HEAT 1000 RHA pen, i don’t think tandem is modeled in the game atm

All the infos you want are in here :

For your answer. Yes, it’s a tandem HEAT. and for the pen :

  • Penetration: >1000 mm CE and able to defeat all current generations of ERA
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It does not work in game ? then why some missile have it then i thought it worked, there is even the animation that show it works for example with the tow2a/tow2b for the bradley.

Oki, thanks you will read it back too.

Fix them Gaijin, we need it

I would guess so since anti-ERA tips on certain APFSDS are missing too but i might be wrong

Although I do obviously agree that the EBRC would be perfect (more than the VBCI in fact…), I was hoping to see before that a fair amount of other neat “cute little car” as you put it, such as the Sagaie and the Sagaie 2…

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True, it’s a shame we’re stil missing these especially since most of them saw combat/service and could fit into nice lineups around 8.0-9.3

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For once for a French armement we do have absolutely everything to model the Akeron. Speed, penetration, mass, explosive mass…

They just give a bigger CE penetration to the missile so that it overpens the armor of the ERA/general armor it pens.

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Tandem does work in game, the TOW-2A punches straight trough the UFP of the T-90A with ERA, where the TOW-2 can only go trough the UFP without ERA.
As for what happens when you don’t need to defeat ERA with the first charge, it’s added to the main charge and you gain a slight increase in penetration.

The big issue that Akeron will have will be the same as the Spike, it’ll aim at the center of the tank and hit whatever, wich will be a tossup between a oneshot or a destroyed breech.

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Technically Tandem is not modelled in game, as far as I am aware. The way penetration works is this way : There are 2 types of penetrators :

  • Kinetic : That’s most types of shells, from AP to APFSDS
  • Chemical : That’s mostly HEAT and HESH

Now, the armor of a tank is calculated via 2 parameters : Kinetic and Chemical. So, for an armor plate, gaining will apply a KE coefficient and a CE coefficient, which will multiply to its thickness and give an armor value against each of those types of penetrators.

Now, Gaijing can say that ERA gives 300mm of armor against HEAT but only 10 against APFSDS and that’s an okay representation of the thing.

In game, tandems are not modelled as dual charge, for their penetration, one destroying the ERA and the other punching through the rest, but as one single HEAT with a very big penetration value. It’s still work about the same as a Tandem expect maybe some edge cases, but it improves the calculation time of the penetration a lot

Even if they were model more accurately it would still work as a regular heat, it would just have different pen against a plate with and without era, that being said the tandem is modeled in game but in a more simplistic way by just ignoring the first layer of an era element, but it is still technically modeled in game, which in a way is necesary as we dont always know which is the penetration before era or after era of all tandem missiles.


Akeron has 2kg of HE, unlike spike which only has 1.2kg of HE
Akeron can PEN 1000mm
Akeron can be fired like spike (fire and forget top attack) but also be fired like Kornet atgm. this means unlike spike it will still be effective in close range.

Oh in close range too, it’s nice then.

are you sure that it is 2kg of HE? because the quotes that i have seen it is talking that the warhead weight is 2kg, which means that the explosive mass is actually lower probably around the same as on the spikes

More importantly the 40mm CTAS gun will be ingame!

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