Well, it is an interceptor. It excels at its task of destroying bombers, but since the gamemode has currently relegated bombers to oblivion, there are often matches where there is nothing to intercept. So, there is no choice but to face single-engine fighters, which will undoubtedly outperform you.
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DONT TELL ME WHAT I CANT DO RAHGGGGHHHH
You REALLY don’t see an issue with that?
It means a lot considering you fundamentally can’t be killed in a BnZ scenario if played correctly. It’s the main reason the XP50 is overpowered. F7F isn’t ever going below 6.0 btw it isnt bad, same with hornet
bluds are expecting I spend all the day on the forum like them 💀💀
the only time i’ve been killed by a ki83 is when I was afking to stir the lentils then i arrived to my burning yak3u and the kill feed shows i was shot down by a ki83.
I’ve outfought them on tu-2, a damn bomber. I out fought them on i225 and f7f too. The Ki83 is not a good aircraft. It was good before when Type 5s and Ho155 (both 30mm) had insane muzzle velocity, insane range and insane damage and were insanely easy to use completely disregarding the nose authority of the carriers because it was negated by going 990m/s and one hit killin anything (that’s pretty much how I forged my 3.5kd on the j5n1 and ki83 before the guns got the nerf of the time)
performance wise the ki83 is only good at dealing with f8f-1b’s because these planes ain’t better. I just keep seeing the reddit mindset of “if good guns is good” or “if good climb is good” so when both combine “the plane is a unit” despite it has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. The Hornet Mk3 is superior in every single regard and it can also outdogfight it in an air rb scenario because the hornet does not compress as badly.
it’s not about it being unable to dogfight, english ham. It’s about it being unable to go faster than 550kmh at peak altitude and losing all the speed til you hit 400kmh. Just because it climbs a tad better than the rest of super props doesn’t mean it’s relevant. It’s not like an XP50 that climbs like a 109 K4 at 4.0 against a full set of heavy yaks without wep, radial engine anton 190s and early zeroes, it’s like a p38k that is slower, compresses more and does everything worse while climbing 1m/s quicker than the rest of stuff.
Too much text? Summed up: Ki83 does not need to dogfight. It simply doesn’t enjoy the privilege of extending for how stupid slow it is. If the guns were still as good as they were 5 years ago I would still like it as a “one chance aircraft” but the type 155 30mm’s are objectively worse than any other 20mm in game. How I can one-shot a corsair with two shvaks but can’t even cripple a spitfire after emptying thirty 30mm’s on it is just insane.
well, my stats on sea fury are much better and it’s an even worse aircraft. What do stats have to do with how objectively bad or good a vehicle is? Defyn’s worst kill death ratio is 52 on the Sakeen, does it mean that the plane is flying is good? No, is the Sakeen of the israeli tech tree any good? He’s just among the best in the entire game; and anyone being slightly good can make bad planes work.
what are you trying to convey? why are you constantly deviating topics? This topic is about ki83 and the uselessness of japanese 30mm. Stick to the topic or leave.
You are complaining about a plane you seem to do well with.
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what does that even mean? Defyn does fifty times as good in the worst planes in game, just because he’s good is his opinion invalidated? Oh wait, it’s because i’m not as bad as you think! therefore yall pulling the “you do good in it why complain?”
You have come a long way from that post on reddit about the mig-19. Honestly I don’t even disagree with you half the time at least now lol.
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I don’t care about your kdr in the plane that doesn’t really matter and is different from player to player but what’s interesting is that it’s NOT worse than your kdr as a player which would be expected to be higher than your kdr in the plane you’re calling “awful”.
Stop trying to use stats.
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Just saying it is a bloody great aircraft.
Just many other twin engines - you dont want to be in a dogfight, especially alone.
Examples are - mosquito, hornet, me410, ta-154, f7f, p61 . . . . . .
The Mosquito is actually quite maneuverable and has four hispanos that really work wonders. The Mollins is only for goats like Ilcr0ssil, Zmigol or H_UE.
The Me410 is not a fighter, it’s an attack aircraft.
The Hornet is insane and it does in fact outdogfight the ki83 in an air rb scenario by staying above 500ias where it negates ki83’s usage of flaps and where compression starts kicking in.
The Ta154 has better head on potential.
The F7F outdogfights the ki83 by so many margins by simply being responsive.
The P61 is armed to the teeth and has better guns.
The P38s are some of the best dogfighters in the game.
The F82 has great high speed maneuverability and can easily make a ki83 lock up and overshoot.
All of these planes listed above are also faster than the ki83 and don’t suffer from high airspeed drag. They accelerate better in dives. And still I find the f7f better than the ki83 because unlike ki83 the f7f meets the 5.7-6.7 criteria of being fast and maneuver decently above 600kmh ias. THings that neither of is the ki83. Why would it matter to climb like a monster if you lose all kinetic energy in a dime the moment you go up for sole drag? The J5N1 is dogshit and it’s better for air RB for the sole fact it can reach 800 ias much quicker while the ki83 slowly reaches the brick wall at 750 if you don’t have an enemy on your six catching up. Because it can.
Are they now shit because they cant beat a yak in a 1v1? - no.
No, they’re not shit except the f7f which is a gunboat with half of the performance that the statcards provide. The Ki83 is not just a gunboat too, it’s a slow, fragile and draggy gunboat whose guns don’t gun.
just because i have high KDR doesn’t mean the plane is good, it means that i’ve gotten good enough at the game to play it in a way i can achieve 3 kills per game at least without dying nor being a rat.
I played the n1k in air rb where it is objectively bad and got to 4.6kd in it long after spading it. Does it mean it’s good’ No, absolutely not. It’s slower than the zero and needs to stay above 6km of altitude to actually perform decently and yet it is slower than a spitfire lf mk9 choking itself at the same altitude.
I’m 3KD on the Alpha Jet A i just complained about, does it mean it’s a good plane? No. It feels like a worse la-15 with more roll rate and one of the worst guns in the game (the german Mauser is different from the swedish Mauser) and sits at 8.7 because ground RB, and even yet after implementing dynamic battle ratings between air and ground, it still sits at 8.7. Had the gun been actually good? I would probably 7kd because most of the times i died was for sparking on an enemy that went back to rearm and killed me after because i couldn’t kill the other five people left for the same reason.
My KD on spitfires is bad. Yes? Yes, I play spitfires braindeadly while I play objectively poor performing aircraft more methodically (because they’re bad yknow). But if I pick one and play with more than 10 percent of my brain i can easily score a 6 kill game without playing like a rat. Just as the time I made the “spitfires are the best props in the game” and got to get a 6 kill game on the spitfire lf mk9 to counter the forecoming “ur bad mantis just dies to plane and copes about it here”
is the f-5e goated because it has energy retention? No, it doesn’t mean anything. A plane with two 20mm plinkers and two 15g missiles (trust me they don’t pull 20) at a BR where everyone is already carrying six all aspect missiles while being 500kmh faster is just the zero all over again except it has no armament. The AIM9J’s were absolutely busted before they got changed to the large gimbal without radar enslave. I was having an absolute blast killing MIG29’s head on with them and launching them side aspect seeing them completely ignore flares while the M39’s would basically one click tap the enemies i just saw and that’s how i forged my 4.7kd (now 3.7kd because m39s got nerfed along the aim9j’s making the f-5e a gun only aircraft that can’t gunfight) And I still keep thriving except with four kill assists instead of four kills per game, why? Because people keep doing a 180 and airbrake the moment they merge with the first enemy.
Is the ki83 good because it climbs the best while having airspawn? No. It is slow, it is fragile, it handles like a boat above 500kmh and has worse linear retention than an am1 pulling out the airbrake.
I’ve never said that. It’s the fact that your KDR in the plane isn’t worse than your average KDR.
For example if I see someone with a KDR of 0.5 having a KDR of 1 in a certain plane I would say the plane is probably good because his KDR in that plane is higher than his average KDR eventhough the KDR of the plane isn’t overwhelmingly good.