Please do fly high and guide a Brimstone at that Pantsir like you could if it was a Kh-38…
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He will dodge the question and come up with some convenient excuse or admit that the only viable strategy for Brimstones is to hit the deck (because Pantsir sphere of death :P), pop out from the horizon when you are 6 or 5 kilometers away from a Pantsir and fire brimstones at it.
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Honestly yeah, Brimstones real effective range is less than 5 kilometers, you can guide them from far away, but that’s simple not possible when a Pantsir has you locked or a Fox 3 is coming your way.
With the new update coming, Brimstones are going to be completely irrelevant and off meta. Hopefully forcing Gaijin to reconsider giving them some FnF capabilities, even if limited. Or better yet, decompressing top tier. If the EF is 13.0 then planes like the Su-30/34 are 15.0 so it’s Pantsir and the new AA’s coming.
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its also significantly more demanding as you gotta remember to shut off and restart the laser
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Or just come to 5-6km, lock it up, fire and hold a key down.
We needed better AAs long time ago and this is yet another proof.
Buildings and trees exist, Brimstones IOG is none existent and unless you are close they miss and do no splash damage.
Best way to use them is to ignore everything in your first pass then come back from behind the SAMs or an offset angle pitch up and launch the Brimstones then when you get to 3-5km from the location pop up lock quickly and lase. Hoping your missiles hit the target otherwise you are dead.
Well we have them and based on the Devs blog it isn’t going to make a difference to the Kh-38 spammers
but the aircraft that need to get closer (Brimstone)
Wasn’t this thread started in large part because of the hypothetical AASM changes that would have left the Kh-38MT without a competitor?
The biggest issue with this thread is that it was started a year after the Kh-38MT was added, after the AASM was added, and after Gaijin started talking about adding longer range SAM’s. It would be very strange for Gaijin to simply remove the CAS weapons that created the need for longer range SAM’s or heavily nerf them, rather than simply leave them as they are and continue work on longer range SAM’s.
Congratulations, you figured out how to use brimstones and make every SPAA helpless against them.
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Okay and? Doesn’t change the fact that the Su-34/30 can do this with no effort, and you have to get within AA range at all times to pull this off, you are making in sound like it’s a trivial matter lol.
Oh, and you only get to kill 1 SPAA too, no FnF, remember? Oh, and hope you are not against a competent AA player that’s paying attention to your moves or a Pantsir ready to fire its guns at you, yeah dude easy :)
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And hopefully no su30/34 is there to fire r77 or worse r77-1 at you
Just notch
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Can’t forget that also, GRB maps are so small and cramped that you are within immediate range of Fox 3 and R-77-1, doing CAS in the EF is borderline impossible if Pantsir and Su-30 or other Fox 3 is slinging heat at you.
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ofc ofc its really easy to notch the fox 3, dodge the SAM and gunfire while guiding a brimstone
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Indeed it is
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you’re so obsessed
you’re actually incapable of arguing in good faith
IRL yes, in game - no. But I do admit that they’re good only because of Real life → Game conversional assumptions working exclusively in their favor. Outside of some horrible decision making like adding pantsir or separating SP for su-34/su-30, adding that su-25 with 38mt’s. ER stuff etc.
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Even a Wiesel with a Stinger is dangerous to Typhoon.
Players seem to forget that the lower you fly you expose yourself to more threats. While Su-30/Rafale or even an F-15 can fly high deliver it’s CAS payload, the Typhoon is in the weeds.
You are within the short range systems the 2S38 auto tracking. The Strelas the systems that other aircraft can just ignore as their wepaon systems are actually “stand off”
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