The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

it is incredibly painful to see that they just give russia the benefit of the doubt yet everyone else needs several primary sources and pictures its so silly, KH-38MT apparently has gen 3 thermals (bare in mind russia struggles to domestically produce gen 1 never mind gen 3) They could have given the Su25SM3 KH-25MTP instead which are far more like mavs with no IOG a 20km range and subsonic yet here we are a weapon better then things like SLAM-ER and we dont even have that

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im calling it now mark it down and ill eat my own words but MMV is gonna be so buggy that it useless on release and when they do fix it, they will have like a 4km lock range meaning most missiles are point fired and will miss

no, it will be a C&P of AGM-65 IR code. 100% equal.

Look at the Harrier Gr7s MAWS.

We were told no because no other fixed wing had MAWS

Then the F-111A was added with MAWS

We were told no, the Gr7 uses a different MAWS

5 months go by and then we get the F-111As C&Ped MAWS which then isnt replaced till a year later

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I have…


Sure but the majority of the playerbase agrees that the any aircraft that carries KH38 is broken…



Have fun watching all your mavericks get intercepted.

Yeah, no. Anyone who has played the A-10C knows it’s one of the worst CAS platforms at it’s. Hell, even Hunter, an excellent CAS player, thought it’s ARB and GRB BRs were swapped at launch. The F111F and B+ are way better options.


Of all the agms Gaijin could’ve chose from, they chose that? Again, are you seriously telling me that the KH38 is a right choice? A 12.0 or 12.3 SM3 with Kh59 would’ve been a much better choice. And it’s selling point would’ve been that it the first aircraft to carry long range IR agms.

If you want a broken agm, just say so. Stop trying to play mental gymnastics

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It’s been going on for years, though. It’s no surprise but it’s infuriating all the same.

No, I want that abomination removed from the game. That is the only solution. Nothing else matters.

Or give Brimstone It FnF

That doesn’t solve the fact that the Kh-38MT is a fantasy arm that has no place being in the game, though.

Cute flag abuse, btw.

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No it not just make Russian main taste their own medicine see if they’ll like it.

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HESH M830A1 Starstreak Leo’s spall liner ofc i remember them alright.

Also just makes the CAS issue in ground battles even worse

That’s exactly right. CAS certainly has a place in GRB/CA but the biggest problem has been a lack of reliable SPAA access for most of the nations in the game as well as lack of CAP access.

When it comes to fighting Russia in top tier it’s impossible because none of the NATO SPAA is good enough and trying to counter via CAP is borderline useless because of the Pantsir, so we have a situation where Russia gets to run roughshod over everyone else and are only defeated by the sheer incompetence of the players, but those losses are too far and few between and because of the absolute lack of balance lots of players - Myself included - Have quit top tier entirely.

Well thank to KH-38MT I can’t playing mbt anymore instead of light tanks and spawn jet fast as i can
Brimstone FnF not gonna make any difference for me anymore since tanks is not the thing I can play in grb anyways.

Even without pantsir spawn you have to be fast enough to kill them like 10sec after they spawn or your team are dead.

I was giving reasons for its mysterious nature, not proof for an argument that said it existed or not.

*Believe btw.

Yep. CAS and CAP should spawn from the airfield in GRB/CA regardless of BR range. Kh-38MT slingers only reinforce that argument ontop of how busted the fantasy missile is and again, that it should be removed outright.

Do tell where did you found the majority of the player base, as this thread certainly isn’t that.

You’re acting like other 12.0s have munitions that can’t be intercepted at all and are essentially free kills.

I can understand the F-111F but B+ ? Hell no.
It has 4x 65Ds and 2x 9Ms. That loadout surely doesn’t beat A-10C’s, especially since the latter can carry some GBUs.

And you’re back to comparing things in a vacuum, good job.
I don’t want unbalanced vehicles in the game, which is why I never liked 38MTs on 30SM.

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It wasn’t “rus main trauma” but that of everyone that went up against it. It’s also not a justification for anything, it’s a counterpoint to people claiming that one nation having better CAS is somehow new, or that this instance of it is particularly bad. It’s stupid and dishonest to present the KH-38MT as some sort of proof of “Russian bias” and doesn’t work unless you ignore a decade of precedent.

It would be nice if people advocated for better top tier CAS balance. They dont. They just cry about one individual aspect of it that happens to get a lot of kills currently.

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Exist IR variant of Kh-59?