They just released a video on the main page outlining the KH-38MT too lol. Check out the Video Digest.
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kh-29 isnt IR it is TV guided and the actual seeker element isnt that big
by cooling the seeker with liquid nitrogen
you dont need a huge seeker for it to be IR guided look at the AGMs or the LMUR for example:
LMUR is a russian IR AGM they are using on helicopters iirc
the KH-38MT is modeled after the one that was shown at th MAKS expo in 2017
and the kh-38ml is modeled after this one:
aren’t fins on the ML in game much larger?
This was already disproven
https://x.com/GaijinEnt/status/1916577746375070147
Also, this has nothing to do with the topic
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Btw I’ve seen Smin answering in another topic. I wonder if he would come visit us by any chance.
He’s already been pinged at least 5 times at some point during this, and has yet to make an appearance, so probably not :/
The ML seen in-game is modelled after the ones seen in use in Ukraine.
He just doesnt have anything to say, since his statements are taken as official gaijin responses, and Gaijin clearly just wants the topic to die.
Theres certainly a number of jabs one could take at this statement, but as you said these would be offtopic.
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If they wanted it to die they would have a moderator lock it for being grossly offtopic which is a good enough excuse, and have the mod that did it say something like “we’ve fowarded these concerns to the devs blah blah blah”
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Definitely the BIAS towards one single nation theories now are rising.
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More like: “We decided to give Russia this AGM because bla bla bla and we based it on the Lmur platform of IR missiles and here is why we believe it would have used the same seeker bla bla bla, thread closed”.
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LMUR cant hit moving targets in IR mode
It can fly to a target area but there is no data to say it can track a moving target autonomously
Thank you for the reply
Oh, my bad, I didn’t know. Thank you for correcting me.
Yes, but that doesn’t fully explain the absurd range the Kh-38MT has currently with that seeker.
You have 2 options for enhance IR guidance: increase the seeker dimensions or lower the temperature of the seeker’s sensor.
If the seeker is the same as the ML but the IR seeker is cooled down to almost -200°C, the temperature delta between the seeker and the target could get maybe to 280°C in excellent conditions, it would make a strong lock for short distances, but for that far it would need at least a Datalink or some type of communication with the aircraft/targetting pod. Like Fox-3, yes they are self guiding but only about 16km away from the target (in war thunder at least).
That is probably not accurate, if you go to the LMUR picture you provided, you can see that the IR seeker has the diameter of almost the entire body of the missile, which makes sense in order to achieve better guidance with IR targetting.
Also, on the missile is written Kh-38ME (Х-38МЭ) both on the side and on the top.
This is a Kh-38MLE (Х-38МЛЭ), it is written on the side of the missile
Anyway the OP is right, no one has been able to prove if the Kh-38MT does actually exist.
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It has the same seeker range/ stats as the AGM-65G which is as far as I can tell smaller than the kh38
Iirc all of the newer IR seekers have the same stats that they copied from the PARS
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I just remembered and I think it’s worth noting that (mmW) Brimstone wasn’t the only thing that was denied for “balance”.
Man-in-the-loop guidance was also denied for some weapons “for balance”
Kinda sad TBH …
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Man in the loop guidance would allow aircraft to shoot ground targets without ever even coming into line of sight to them, while at the same time removing the few disadvantages IIR/TV guided F&F munitions have left (low lock on range in inclement weather, switching lock to wrecks). It would be too strong even on the weakest systems that could get it like the AGM-62 ER, and on more capable systems like the Spike it would result in the A-129D/Tiger HAD Block 2/AH-60 just sitting on the helipad and spamming missiles at ground units all match long.
We sort of had man in the loop TV guidance when the Bullpup was added with the FJ-4B VMF 232 and while that was hilarious to abuse it was not in any form fair.
Simply require LOS from the datalink antenna to the missile to be retained to allow for the point of impact to be updated, you could further enforce angular restrictions on the both the send / receive antenna (Could be based of assumed maximal antenna diameter using established formula for parabolic / flat plate geometry), so the bridge can only be maintained if the TCA to additionally constrain the ability to provide updates while maneuvering.
These restrictions practically limit the performance of early systems, and those that use dedicated pods, before omni-directional WAN’s (e.g. GBU-53/B, which uses the Link -16 datalink as the data transmission layer to provide target updates). But by that point I would expect that we get access to the advanced datalink stores HE-VT / AHEAD ammo & AESA coverage would be widely available to provide rapid ordnance intercept capability considering that only basic PID is modeled, approximating simple guidance laws are implemented. so it is unlikely to evade radar directed bursts due to the CBDR constraints of proportional navigation.
Lowest BR that I know of would be the A-4E
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