The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

That doc is from a pretty trustable source.

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No, you haven’t. At 20 km you can get a POINT lock, that means you’re locked on to the ground, not a tank. You only start being able to get a TRACK (tracking a vehicle) lock at ~13 km with any of the IR AGMs (against tank sized targets, at least). Test it out in a custom match.

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I said before that locking the ground isn’t really a reliable way to kill things, even AAs.

Yes, you locked the ground. If your lock isn’t moving with the target vehicle then you don’t have a tracking lock.

Good, then you just misinterpret it.

It’s a bit better with the Kh-38 since it’s faster, so it gets to the target tracking range or the target itself faster than other weapons …


welp it isnt tracking the ground tho

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the 20km is only possible in ideal conditions agaisnt large targets like ships, agaisnt a tanks you will not get a track over 13km, this is the same for all IR guided AGM, tv for example says that it is 12, but you can only get a track under 7km

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When it says “POINT” in the overlay/HUD it means it’s tracking the ground.
When it’s tracking a vehicle it says “TRACK”.

It’s literally saying “POINT” in your image. It can acquire the ground vehicle if it’s in the center of the FoV once the missile gets into tracking (TRACK) range (~13 km).

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welp you learn something new every day

good thing iam not a ground player and use the 38mt only occasionally for a2a

Can someone remind me again what is the max range of enemy AA ?

Oh, you are one of, them…

Idk how to say this but
yall have been yapping for 3k lot messages and
You said it exist we ask for 38mt existence proof, you dont have it and then derail the thread to “omg bro you dont know scheibe” derail the thread and start from ground 1
We said it doesnt exist, you said “omg bias bro!!!”
the tactic you are doing is very effective because everytime we mention it u immediately jump in and “bias bro” or “skill issue yall have it for years” “let us have something” “it exist trust me bro”
“theres mockups so it exist” “seeker was installed” ok what it is? it is functional or mockups? when we ask something yall ignore it because urself cant answer it and you have
ZERO EVIDENCE
ZERO PROOF
ZERO IDEA
ZERO LOGIC
ZERO COMMON SENSE
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ARBITRAL BIAS
hell even the RU forums also put in question whether or not it exist and yall still go “it exist bro trust me bro you dont know nothing”
I literally have to make a list on who to trust and who is trolling because of these type of arguement
and then my post is definitely getting cut out of context to support ur zero logical arguement

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if you look at the URL its over 4100 messages but over 400 deleted for being off topic

Reminder that with AGMs like the KH-38 which sport IOG, if the target does not move outside it’s FOV, it will acquire the target as a target track as it gets closer, or anything with sufficient emissions, wrecks, passing planes, the dying sun that is the emissions of a F-14A.

This is not the case for missiles without IOG for some reason, the French ASM Hammer can do the same.

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Never used in combat and never tested is a different thing.
There is no prove of the KH 38MT to be functional thats the issue.
The other missles you seem to be hinting at have prove to have been at least be test shot etc.
The same cant be said about the KH38MT, there is only a until proven otherwise non functional mock up

Show us a functioning KH 38MT, its that easy

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Lock range is dependant on silhouette size. Try it against a tank sized target.

All AGMs can switch from POINT to TRACK lock if something is in the center of their FoV once they get into TRACK range. The ones without IOG just explode when they lose a TRACK lock. I use that with AGM-65Ds against SPAAs from time to time, but it’s of limited use since they take forever to get to their target at extreme ranges.

those are ships not tanks…

You have a nerve to come here, skip 3600 messages and come up with a set of complete nonsense takes.

Unspecified seeker + unspecified missile type = general mockup, hence not an evidence of it existence.
Same as a plastic model not being a proof of anime girls existing.

If it was there - they would use it. We haven’t even seen a single photo of it attached to anything. not even for testing.

As well as it’s not being evidence for it’s existence.

No one is saying that. That’s just a common sense conclusion.
Because there’s not a single evidence of its existence.

And that’s what ru military usually does, adding up to doubts.
This missile isn’t real.
And here how it’s happened:
RMoD - We need a modular missile, here’s what we want it being able to do
Manufacturer - Oh hell yea, your money - our pleasure, we can do that.
(turns out they can’t and they actually knew it before signing up a contract)
Manufacturer - Oh well, dear MoD, at least ML variant is good!!!
(other variants are forgotten about, because if you tell about your fails - you lose)

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