The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

Gr4 has a dozen+ Brimstones to use as well to oversaturate any AA.
Gr4 in it’s current state is definitely not a worse package overall than SM3.

IOG isn’t really anything new and limited to 38MT.

@Thenighthunter
Launching missiles outside the range of your target lock is simply not viable, especially if you have limited amount of them.
So saying they are “20km missiles” is borderline fake advertisement.

Do you even play the game ?

2 Likes

I doubt it judging by your profile.

Until the IR PGMs came along the 38MT was the only IR AGM with IOG. Currently only the 38MT, IR PGMs and AASM have IR + IOG. Thats 3/10 Nations with access to IR + IOG AGMs.
Pretending its a universal thing/not significant is just wrong. IR Missiles without IOG self-destruct if they loose lock, those with still have a chance to hit

Missed that, my bad. Can’t talk about SIM, I have no experience in the mode.

There’s also no contest between the Rafale and the Su-30SM. You trade a weaker but still incredibly potent AGM for a more capable platform to fire them from. I honestly don’t see the “unbalance”. I have a higher match impact (and fun) playing the Rafale.

1 Like

We would be in for a wild ride if we wanted to give each nation the same things across the BRs.
The “where our IR + IOG” request could branch out into seemingly endless requests across the game, which is why asymmetrical balancing exists.

Yes, but the point is that the Kh-38MT seems to be more of a proposal at this point
Plus even if we accept that it exists or that the marketing material is enough for the missile’s existence, there’s still no proof of Su-30SM carrying it or being compatible with it …

Plus there are other advantages that Su-30SM has
Such as more missiles, longer range missiles and not facing Pantsir …

1 Like

Watch out, many posters here think that missiles aren’t attached to planes and are an entity of their own, which obviously isn’t true.

what happened to giving everyone m247 equivalents?

or do you not see the double standard there?

1 Like

The only double standard here is complaining about 38MT and the fact not all nations have the equivalent to it, all the while not caring about other nations not having M247 equivalents.

it’s not a double standard, it’s called being on topic

If you want to complain about M247 and its absence in other trees, you can make a thread on your own

1 Like

Yes it is when you aren’t complaining about similar cases found somewhere else. It’s even worse when you try to sweep that under the rug as it’s involving a non-USSR nation.

The post I replied to, as well as hundred of others, was about “balancing” though. I agree that it would be better if those posts, as well as all the off topic complaints and whatnot, were removed, but moderation probably wouldn’t be able to keep up with that. So I thought might as well reply to one of them instad of leaving it up completely uncontested.
Having to read through 3700 posts, with >90% being off topic garbage, makes it quite hard and time consuming to figure out the actual state of the discussion about how “real” the Kh-38MT is.

Longer range missiles are mostly irrelevant for GRB, I’ve barely ever ran out of the six missiles when flying CAP and the Pantsir is usually only a problem if you don’t really know what you’re doing in any of the capable CAS jets.

Or Gaijin just removes IOG/GPS from ALL IR AGMs. That would give ground players an actual reliable counter as well, if they’re lucky enough to see them coming in the first place.

1 Like

rich coming from you lmao 3 matches this week the same as sudo lmao

1 Like

No it wouldn’t as ground players don’t really look what’s happening 10-15km away on the sky. The only real solution that benefits the ground player is to remove all FnF weapons and heavily limit the spawn requirements for CAS.

and once again this thread devolves into a D comparing contest.

1 Like

You’re acting like 38MT and other IRs have been added last week so I couldn’t gather opinions on them already.

He on the other hand has like 100 battles in total while only using 1.0 planes. I bet he gained a lot of knowledge from doing that.