We had and still have fake stuff in the game that are purposely being added by Gaijin for their reasons.
yes many as non tech tree or added on tech tree due to being required for other essential reasons however, there is no need for an op missile that does not exist.
regardless, the missile should be removed as having any western counterparts added with no proof would be impossible.
gaijin has already been removing fake vehicles and will probably move further with it
Like you are basically right. Mainly for balance reasons. But question is if Kh-38MT is needed for balance? I dont think so.
“balance” (its op and not balanced at all)
The KH38 MT is a man made object, not a black hole which took 50+ years to prove the existence of between it’s theoritical appearence and the proof of its physical existence, same goes for hidden species, which are by definition hidden before they are discovered…
That’s where the comparison falls appart.
- Alien ships in the US tree because of area 51 when ?
- I heard france developped a Mach 5 AGM 20 years ago, it can be carried by rafale, just trust me
See where that goes ? Everyone claiming everything all day long.
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We don’t really know what Gaijin deems necessary and essential. It might be there to balance out other woes of vehicles that carry such missiles.
Yes, they are removing fake vehicles only when they get to adding real ones in their place.
yes and op weapons are not neccessary, there is no problem for removal even if you try to make up one.
then they can make a statement as to why they have a weapon ingame that does not have evidence supporting it’s existence that fits gaijin requirements
3596 replies on this topic and no evidence that fits gaijins standards
no reply from devs despite them replying on things like stinger
Except the missile already exists and we know they have the knwoledge to install IR seekers into missiles.
So it’s more than possible it exists, even though us average joes can’t find it with a simple google search.
And no i don’t know where Gajin has there sources of it existing or not has from.
This thread is just giga cope.
You can’t balance a missile on it’s own, as only vehicles carry BR number and thus can be balanced. It definitely boosts the performance and balance anemic things like SM3 or SU-34, but adding those missiles to 30SM wasn’t needed at all.
“they have the knowledge” does not mean that they actually have done it. it is just an assumption, not proof. like i said, it does not fit gaijin’s posted requirements.
the whole thread is full of assumptions because no one is able to provide actual proof.
Balance can be made by many ways.
No, but it’s not far fetched to think they have, it’s not a wonder weapon.
So you say it can finaly be closed ?
Military tech can share that as well as military uses classified documents in order to prevent such things from being unhidden.
38MT is basically a copy of 38ML which is being used in real life, so you definitely have much more to go off of than you have when claiming alien ships in Area 51 are real.
sure if the devs agree that there isn’t actual proof and just empty assumptions.
Why ? They don’t owe you anything.
You are free to play any other game if this is such a problem for you.
Like yes, it is. Question is how they modeled guidance head.
if Gaijin shows them, fine by me
but if they did the “average joe” google search, then they are in no ability to prove the missile exists either, and they’ll have to admit they added the missile on assumptions, it wouldn’t be the first time (manpads thread, anyone ?)
As for the IIR seeker integration, it’s a bit more complicated than just sticking a new seeker. “It’s possible the missiles exists” is not enough, because as i said earlier, anyone could claim anything with this logic
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Except you didnt. Hell ill even use your example; Lets say there exists a deer with star shaped spots somewhere in the wilderness.
You say “there is a deer with star shaped spots on its mane”
I say “ok, where do you have the evidence that it does exist? you are claiming it exists so wheres the evidence”
You say “well theres deer with white spots on their mane in the wilderness, why cant a star shape spotted deer exist”
I say “until you have actual evidence of the existence of star shape spotted deer, its more likely that it doesnt exist than it does.”
I dont know how else to illustrate this. You saying “the ball is in your court” means absolutely fuck all, it doesnt shift the burden of proof, it doesnt prove anything other than you really not understanding what im telling you.
A) it being a copy of ML with completely different seeker head is saying something like “apples are just like footballs in that they are round shaped” and B) i dont know what other Kh series you are refering to as the vast majority of other Kh series dont use IR but contrast seekers
You can also prove that something like that didnt exist by the lack of proof that it does exist. And remember, something you seem to not get. Even if (playing devils advocate here) the 38MT does in fact exist but its existence (and by proximity stats) are classified, that also means that it should not be in warthunder. Same reasoning why gaijin cant use classified informations to change/fix other vehicles.
If you genuinely dont get it after this explanation, im just honestly going to stop trying to explain it to you because its pointless