The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

Previous reply got flagged… Love the cope on this forum

I mentioned it as a plausibility of how it could work if it was real (its not)

this post also got flagged.
ironic

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after 3000 posts … and 83 % for removing this thing … with will not happen ( gaijin don’t care ). Only users of that “thing” are happy to have it:)…

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I was just pointing at the fact how Gaijin knowingly will add fake things for the sake of it. They also remove those only when proper replacement come around.

So yeah, Gaijin has little reason to remove it at the moment.

certainly a double standard with some players, want OP things kept as are (XM800T) or fake things kept in game (R2Y2) despite not fitting in with a real vehicle only rule because they do well in them or they are OP or both (Ho-Ri and KH38MT).

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dont forget f5c with fictional flare/chaff and aim9e which it never got irl

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they don’t do this, Ho Ri still exists despite an SPG with more versatility being at the same BR.

dw XM800Ts HVAP is also fictional, its using a german shell on an American testbed and gaijin refused the bug report

APDS*

thats not true at all lmao, they add things like that when there is truly no option (F-16AJ) the KH-38MT out classes every other A2G weapon if everyone else had a missile equally as strong then I would say sure its fine but they dont. realistically the KH-29 is more of the counterpart to the AGM-65 the US equal at least would be something like SLAM-ER (not asking for it but thats the closest thing I can think of)

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completely different class of missiles, kh59mk/mk2 is comparable to slam er

miss the part where I said the closest thing I could think of? realistically the KH-38s shouldnt have even been added to the game in the first place with still to this day zero counters from other countries

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the most consistent things on this thread are the lack of proof of this missile and flags on posts because russia mains are not happy about the thread

this one flagged too jeez man

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Do you have any example aside the kh-38mt where they have “defaulted” to the best possible quality of thermal displays? Because as far as I can remember I don’t really remember other sights that are as good, and that are coming from obscure vehicles ( for example 2S38 is a test vehicle, but there’s information about it if I am not wrong).

Perhaps we should take the lack of response to the fake weapon as acceptance that these things are now the new standard and re-open allll the bug reports etc that were denied due to “lack of evidence”.

I’ll take the ZA-HVM for starters.

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AIM-9B had uncooled seeker, hence the poor sensitivity
Subsequent variants had cooled seekers

These are operational limitations, not limits.
They will be indicated in any Soviet instruction. Sometimes extreme (destructive) overloads are indicated, a safety factor must be applied to them (usually 1.5), this will be an overload in which the aircraft will fall apart in the air.

The game applies a 1.05 multiplier (for speed) to “operational limitations” to get the “limits”.

Of course there are other examples from other nations as well … Such as F-16 pulling way beyond its 9G limit …
Ironically it was added with the G-limiter and had it for a while, but then they removed it.

it actually wasnt, iirc that was an AOA limit not a G limit

It’s not hard limited to 9G, its a transient limit that may be exceeded, due to the way that the control laws are modeled. (and more restrictive modes do exist to account for stores configurations, but that’s not really modeled elsewhere).

Further the issue with Gaijin’s implementation was that it didn’t take into account differential surface deflection properly and the feedback in the system, since that also depends on state history and a number of other factors (Angle of Attack, Mach number, static air pressure, etc.), sometimes even recursively or otherwise mixed into multiple channels.

As such it’s a complex system especially if trying to somehow map the various outputs onto a bespoke mouse control system. So it’s not surprising that there are edge cases where things don’t line up.

I do think that it’s fair to a degree that said implementation is treated permissively until it can be properly implemented, though as otherwise there are potential balancing issues created, we really don’t need more F-104 / A-10A’s if we can avoid it.

It just so happens that the F-16 is really the test case for a digital Fly by wire system that people picked up on, Similar issues exist with the Wing Sweep program for the F-14 as well.

Do you mean it may be momentarily exceeded?

Because from pilot accounts I’ve heard, it was “hard limited” to 9G
You could however momentarily exceed it if you were fast and pulling fast, as essentially the system couldn’t keep up with imposing the limits quickly enough …

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