Thats the thing with the laser changes, now everyone can target from 30km out (TGP and render settings permitting) in practice theres only a few weapons that can actually capitalise.
The missiles current version probably should be removed/reworked so it would be more balanced
I wounder If they changed the seeker to more like (part 1. picture where the missile only locks on around 6-8km and uses IOG to get closer)https://forum-en-cdn.warthunder.com/original/4X/f/a/7/fa717af516d18b4ff473da2647aaca5eae83029b.jpeg
Would that be enaugh for the missile to be more balanced.
probably wouldnt change much because closing from 15km to 6-8km only takes it a couple of seconds
they really just shouldnt have added it
I agreee. the missiles speed is also in my oppinion the main issue, since when playing AA you will die before your missile hits the plane even if you launched before the plane.
But like the Hammer IR that have the “Wonky” seeker that sometimes fails to lock further away would this make that the missile would miss more. TBH that is a horrible way to balance since its more luck than skill but we need atleast something since currect situation is horrible.
when it’s set up correctly, it will really work, but right now it’s a pathetic sight.
I stopped trusting ChatGpt when it told me the Rafale has a mecanically scanned array radar
my point
“In light of the recent removal of the Kh-38MT, we have decided to introduce the Kh-38MA and increase Su-30SM engine thrust by 10000kgf”
But yeah, you “won’t” [It’ll be almost exclusively if not exclusively renders] find AGM-65Ds on AV-8B+ cause the Marines don’t use IR guided weapons anymore., or even F-18E tho I haven’t looked for images of F-18E yet.
It’s all laser.
At some stage you have to trust manufacturers of the missiles themselves, and the fire control system manuals of aircraft.
So what’s the conclusion, kh38mt does exist, but never used?
Well, after spending 2 study halls reading this, (my head hurts T-T), I agree there is insufficient proof for proving the full existence of the Kh-38MT(E), but due to the nature of how things are, it is unlikely to be removed from game.
more like KH38mt may have existed as a prototype and may or may not been tested but never entered service and most likely the program has stopped
also that there is no evidence that any platform in game could use it
We know su34s can use kh38s
Essentially 75% of the missile has been used in combat (since the kh-38 family is modular) the last 25% we have seen on display at least once in 2017 despite the author of the threads claims that whats on display is a ML (despite not having any of the identifying features of a Russian Laser guided weapon), and is likely not in production as the only real application for IR agms is AShM which is already widely covered by the KH-59 family of weapons. Testing etc we cant talk to as we have no documents to date. As for its inclusion in the game its already in might as well leave it. Mostly cause the can of worms it would open is not worth it cause it will have knock on affects on at least hammer but likely also on mavs too, to a degree.
yes they can use the Laser and GPS variants we have no idea if they have the wiring needed to receive high quality thermal images from weapons mounted in all of those hardpoints which is important because in game it has to find targets through the KH38s onboard seeker
oh yeah, even if it did enter service we dont know if it was capable of tracking tanks or was designed for stationary targets or ships
I very much dissagree and think it should be removed as it currently makes toptier ground exeptionaly boring to play with how much better it is than other AGMs.
I would except it being unable to track moving targets like it has recently been discoved for IR hammer missiles as then it should be still very usable but less oppressive.
I would also argue that there was a real use for IR AGMs against ground vehicles even if currently they are being suplanted by MMW radar guided ordinance.
i mean chatgpt isnt really 100% true but its way better now than before
Get it out NOW!
Another fantasy system for the soviets
the 38ML is already better than the 65D the MT is even better lord