Nope, still nothing. If anything, there is more evidence its likely not an operational missile, between the archival analysis of the ROE website, and the look at the last known archived version of the KTRV catalogue entry both pointing towards it not having gone beyond the early mockup stage.
I think the best proof currently is showroom mockups containing some sort of seeker that may or may not be of the IR verity. We know the Kh-38 family exists and are functional missiles, but no concrete proof of one with a functional and tested IR-seeker integrated.
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Wow thats a great argument to add literally everything to the game.
Anyways, 100 trillion E series tanks and UFOs with nukes to the German techtree
It’s literally assertions. Look as much as I like this thing removed or nerf (I hate CAS that much)
I know you made this comment, but the onus is literally still your to make proving it does not exist, when the definite answer would honestly be “Nobody outside of the Russian MoD knows”
But there’s also no definitive proof that it wasn’t test fired. You guys said so yourself, you can’t prove a negative
We dont need to prove that.
You need to prove it was for it to be eligable
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Burden of proof lies on the accuser?
Not in this case, cause its existence cant even be proven by you
Which is exactly why non-existence is the default. So lacking proof of existence defaults to non-existence of practically anything ever.
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Yes, when proving existence, not the other way around as that quite literally isn’t possible.
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And thats exactly the problem with a lot of people in here. They just hate CAS or Russia or whatever, thats why a lot of opinions here are not rational.
And the poll would probably be the exact same even if there was hard proof of the MT.
Nice strawman
You can choose to interpret the thread however you like. Ive already made it clear that the goal of the thread was to find proof of the missiles existence, not trying to prove that it does not exist. If you refuse to understand that very basic fact, thats on you.
Also, as Necronomica has mentionned many many times already, it is functionally impossible to prove non-existence. The default ste of being is non-existence, with proof of existence being what changes that.
What would you have prefered I name the thread? “Evidence the Kh-38MT does actually exist”? I dont have any solid evidence it does, so that would just be a misleading title.
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I get that, but still absence of evidence is definitely not evidence of absence
I literally posted instances where assertions where made it does not exist, do they have evidence it does not exist?
I’m gonna quote myself
Look I have no evidence that the seekers are French, but France did provide a lot of Thermal technology to the Russians, so I still assert that if Hammer gets nerfed, the Kh-38MT should get the same nerf if it does not get removed
And that is just declarations by you.
If it it is proven to exist i personaly would have no problem with it. This is the case with many here.
In the first place the thread wouldnt exist in that case in the first place.
That has nothing to do with russia. The F-16AJ got just as much flak
Its what u are doing all the time
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That is why we’d like to see what evidence gaijin has that the missile is real, since nobody in nearly 3000 comments here have been able to provide anything that was not already discussed in the original post.
Is this really that hard to understand?
Using your own logic to show you how dumb it is and thats the best you can come up?
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But Gaijin won’t respond, because it’s literally a zero sum game for them. That’s the unfortunate truth
I would argue it could exist, slap an IR seeker on it and allow it lock IR signatures.
What we can almost 100% gaurantee is the missile will not function like it does in game.
It will not act like it does capable of hitting moving targets and it will not have the detection range it has in game.
here is an extract from KBM the designers and producers of the LMUR one of the few “man in the loop guided systems”
*“One of the important features of the missile is a high degree of protection against interference and electronic warfare. To date, in combat conditions, there have been no cases of suppression of the control channel of a light multi-purpose guided missile (LMUR “Product 305”) during a special operation,” the state corporation added. *
The missile operates in several modes, including a “fire-and-forget” capability. In this mode, the missile’s homing system locks onto the target while still mounted on the helicopter, allowing it to work autonomously after launch. This feature improves operational flexibility and reduces the risk to the crew.
*In remote control mode, the missile is launched towards specific coordinates and initially flies in inertial mode. As it nears the target, the homing system activates, transmitting an image to the operator’s screen in the helicopter cockpit. The operator then identifies the target and guides the missile to it. *
In a third mode, the missile is fired inertially toward the approximate coordinates of the target. As it nears the target, the homing system provides the operator with a live image of the terrain. The operator identifies the target, and the missile adjusts its trajectory to ensure a direct hit.strong text
In every mode this missile cannot determine what it is looking at, it cannot hit a moving target without operators input. Why would anyone think KH-38MT could track and hit a moving tank at 20km away
LMUR is one of Russias most advanced and newest missiles
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