The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

Unfortunately Gaijin might declare lack of evidence for it not-existing. Like a doc stating it was canceled or something, which would be hugely infuriating

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They will casually ignore this as it goes against their main argument.

mind you, it doesnt need to be proof that a plane which is in game test fired it, because for example, mirage 2000d rmv is capable of fireing and carrying AASM hammers solely on a fact that there was a test of AASM hammers done on Mirage 2000N (a plane that was the base for 2000D Rx and later D RMV)

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Might wanna save all this, just in case thread gets surprise shutdown

With aircraft and weapon systems so new, so long as there is reasonable expectation that the aircraft will be able to equip it. Then that should be largely suffecient. So in this, if it can carry any version of the KH-38 or derivative of it, then it should be fine

But what aircraft can carry them is largely irrevelant if the weapon system never existed

So let me get this straight. The missile that’s destroyed Ground RB for hundreds of days now was added through (from my understanding) a bare minimum of some brochueres and some sort of 1-off expo model seeker for events? Are we serious? There’s no proof of functionality, compatibility, or anything? What are we doing here? Is this going to be addressed by Gaijin?

I hate to make this parallel, but if we’re using these types of parameters for adding munitions into the game, @MythicPi’s ACIMD comment could come to fruition. Same thing with things like the Aim-9R, Aim-7R, Aim-95 AGILE, etc… I really hope someone can give clarification.

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MT or ML?

It has the aame curved rectangle portion (mirror?) Seen in the clearer image from MAKS 2011 that was posted

The same curved rectangle is seen in the production seekers:


Also, once again, I’ve provided the source for the original picture from MAKS 2017, and its very clearly stated to have been displayed with a SALH seeker and was named MLE:

You guys are trying to disprove the claim of the person who actually attended the expo and tool the picture based on what you believe the seeker looks like.

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why is there a convex lense infornt of it
you dont need them for laser seekers

Don’t you see that they are completely different

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Its likely a mirror to focus the laser if I had to guess

A similar structure is seen on the posted Kh-25ML seeker

a mirror?
infront of the sensor?
you know how stupid that sounds

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Likely the same principle as a mirror telescope, its not stupid at all

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Lots of sensors use mirrors to help focus light, it’s very common.

This is using mirrors.

Or radio dishes. What do you think those are? They’re mirrors for radio waves to reflect and focus them into the sensor.

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This Kh-38ME ( T version)

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Everyone was wrong about what we thought was the seeker, the head is still a SALH head and the pictures he posted actually helped prove that, beyond the fact were discussing what we think the seeker is from the looks of it when the article discussing the missile that was exhibited clearly states it to be a SALH seeker

Sorry, catching up, but yeah thats still not an IIR lens, it looks like what i assume is a mirror seen on the MAKS 2011 pic he provided

Except that compared to the other modern Russian LG munitions like kab-250LG that is way too shallow to be a laser seeker.

Kab-250LG-E from JanesIntel twitter:

Spoiler

None of that plaque states its a thermal seeker or mentions MTE?

I don’t think it does. The thing you mark here as a mirror:

Looks to me to be just a green PCB (The red “dots” are likely components of some kind). and just below what you marked is a large lens to focus light coming in, likely to something in the center of the PCB.

Here is a different angle:
Screenshot 2025-04-11 173344

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