This literally ment nothing. All it points to is the Missile to be a modular 38 for Export.
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MT, does it track emissivity or reflectivity? Scene matching or heat tracking. That sort of stuff.
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It also doesn’t mention laser guidance either. I believe this is due to the missile being modular, which is why all of the designations read “Kh-38ME”
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so you are saying the kh 38mt is fake and should be removed but the kh38mtE exists.
i think i rater stick with the current
Could be right on that point 🧐
That being said, the person who took the image stated it to be an SALH seeker, and we’re trying to determine what kind of seeker it is based on a few pictures with no definitive features.
No? Im saying MT/MTE both likely didnt exist.
NGL from that angle that doesn’t look like a lense.
Yeah i wasnt saying it did there, I was just saying that him posting the plaque as proof its an MTE doesnt prove anything
Sure, but ive now also been proven wrong about it being a mirror, and someone pointed out modern russian laser seekers also have lenses, so were back at square 1 on that
KAB-250LG-E: (definitively a laser homing head, and definitly a lense)
The seeker we’re all arguing over was stated to be a SALH seeker, and it “habing a lense” isnt proof of it not being a laser seeker, as seen with the Kab250LG-E above
What I’m saying is in this photo that looks more like a bracket rather than a round lense.
no he pointed out to you that modern laser seekers look completly different
well i hope for gaijin they find the evidence rater quickly the most op missile war thunder has ever seen being a fantasy? would be pretty hard evidence for Russian bias given how often they dismiss evidence on western equipment (f111c full bomb load has an example)
That doesn’t mean that the Kh-38ML uses the same laser seeker though. All you’re seeing is the lense meant to focus the light, and there are multiple ways to do that.
Bombs likely don’t need a large FOV, as they can’t target quickly maneuveuring targets. Missiles can however, so a large FOV via mirrors would be more advantageous.
I think it still does, it looks VERY convex to me at least :
The top of the looks like it curves in on itself
Forgive my shaky hand
Thanks for taking what I said onboard, even though you missed my main point about the missile you claim to not be MTE being too stout but I bring another image of an MLE mockup from Army 2022
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Considering this has more of the tell tale features of russian LG weaponry (Specifically the dome shape and material) we can conclude that the one featuring brown glass and a too stout seeker may be IR or TV but considering a TV seeker isint advertised anywhere it is highly likely to be IR.
If that was the case we would see the other end of it, it wouldn’t disappear. But i see what you are trying to say, it’s likely just a trick of the light and the lens/dome bending the light.
You can see it clearer in this image:
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Well, I’m not to sure about Kh-38M at the current moment, but at least for 2024 they didn’t make any MTs.
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But seeing as its the same company who gave “Su-34” the brochure’d loadouts of a “Su-32FN” this ain’t exactly that shocking Also the same one who gave Su-25SM3 Kh-38s when it literally didn’t use them lmao
what exactly is that list and where did that come from?
Congrats on a great topic.
Considering everything that russian industry was, is and will be - I absolutely agree.
It’s either 100% fake, or >50%~ fake. There is never anything lower or inbetween.
Btw. If you would need any translations that are beyond capabilities of AI and other tools - DM me, I’ll be glad to help.
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