The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

I posted these 2 pics before, but the part he’s trting to pass off as the rotating portion of the gyro very much isnt.



Looks almost the same as the thing dead center of this production Kh-38ML seeker.

What would be needed to satisfy this requirement?

that… isnt even close

No, its a mockup, just like the only Kh-38MT’s ever photographed.

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I think you might have missed some images, the thing he points to being the gyro actually is the gyro.

You can see the seeker lens at the bottom.

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a picture/video or a document stating that such test fire happened (and prob that it was successful)

I dont know if this is a bug reportable situation?

Id guess either a video from a trusted source showing it fired and guided in that manner or better yet documentation from a primary source stating that its been tested. Being so new, those might not be available so maybe even a number of reliable secondary sources maybe?

Even a photo of one with a IIR seeker mounted to the actual airframe would be a start

But I honestly dont know, Gaijin might be more flexible with it being so new and thus maybe classified?

So if you guys wanted it removed you’d need an official non/un-classified document saying the MT was cancelled

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So even if a munition should be capable of being fired according to standardization/other technical details, it should require proof of a successful test fire on that specific vehicle in order to be implemented? Or is this just for implementing the munition in the first place, and requirements on which vehicles get to use it are more relaxed?

Wont happen, but we can search for sources to nerf it )))))

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Planned capablilities doesnt implicitly mean that the capability actually existed.

Plenty of planned weapons and planned weapon capabilities that have been denied in the past because they never actually existed.

If there isnt a reason to limit it on airframes, then largely that would just be Gaijin discretion

If a plane can fire one version of AGM-65, it can do the same for all other. Yet I do not see every version on every plane.

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not really,
for it to stay, we would need:

  • a document, video, or a picture which 100% confirms that it was testfired from a plane at some point in time.

for it to get yeeted out we would need:

  • a document stating that the project was cancelled before the 38 with TV seeker was testfired

and ofc, proving that something is not existent is borderline impossible

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It’s quite easy if you are the one dealing the cards.

I’m simply asking what the burden of proof should be for implementing the mentioned items, just so that we’re all on the same page. Clearly planned and paper weapons/features would not fit in this criteria.

This is likely to keep certain vehicles historically accurate-ish and not have their BR raised too high for their own good.

And if we find neither we’ll have Shrodinger’s Kh-38 in the game?

Yeah, I asked the same question. Ultimately would need to hear from the Devs/CM but

Is the best answer we’ve gotten so far

to my information yes, because sure, a munition can be fired technically, but if it was never mounted on a plane, then how it can be test fired successfully?

if we find neither then i guess we are at mercy of gaijin showing us proof, and if they decide not to, then we are stuck

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