The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

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930

Thats isnt a source, thats a blog rehashing the info from brochures, which is what literally ALL info I’ve found about the MTE is. Every single post, article, or blog mentionning the Kh-38MT references one of the markwtting brochures if you dig deep enough.

Its even using a picture of a mockup ffs. You cant ACTUALLY believe this is a legitimate source?!

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931

that literally cannot be true as it gives a date of 2012 as IOC for all variants while that contradicts more reliable sources posted here

932

I said blog my guy, there are legitimate gov.ru sites saying they’re in service… I’m not posting because they’re probably classified.

Again, what country are you from that I can see them and you can’t?

933

if its a gov.ru site accessible on open web (or with country restriction) it is by definition not classified

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934

If its on public government website, its not classified.

For example, I have an roe.ru source which has all mentions of the Kh-38MTE and any IR guidance option removed (the most up to date version of their website afaik):
Х-38МЛЭ

935

If you do not require any sort of login and there’s no explicit disclaimers there’s no reason to believe it to be classified.

936

So, nothing has changed?
This missile is not real. Even if the worst of the worst ru glazers can’t prove that it does - means it doesn’t.

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937

I’d like a mod to say that before I believe it

938

This isn’t some warthunder policy, this is just common sense

939

you are literally just trolling at this point

you have nothing and you were hiding behind claims that you had classified sources

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940

This missile breaks Gaijin’s own rules of implementation and should be removed from the game.

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941

I mean, if they wanna be carefull and wait, thats fine, but they shouldnt make claims until they can post the source of said claim. Thats just basic common sense.

I have a feeling what theyre gonna post isnt gonna be anything new though. Itll either be an old KTRV archived page, or an old ROE page. Maybe a brochure or an old news article mentionning its existence with a source pointing back toa brochure…

942

Is most certainly is…? They ban people all the time for restrictions on documents.

Being cautious is trolling now?? Wow…

943

Nope, what i saw was relating to its current use in a current conflict, being troublesome for a certain region which was having troubles countering it.

944

if a government is releasing information to the public on one of their own websites by definition it cant be classified saying otherwise as an excuse to not post sources isnt “being cautious” its lying about having sources

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945

Technically, governments can put classified information on publicly available websites. However.

  1. It will always very explicitly say it is, you can send an image of that warning if it exists in literally any scenario unless it explicitly says it’s also included in the restrictions
  2. 95% of the time it will be behind a login anyways.
  3. There are very rare instances where neither of the other two are true, however this is comically shoddy work, for the absolute loosest of export restrictions.
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946

MT or ML? Cuz ML is known to be in combat, I havent seen anything about MT being used in combat, and im pretty sure i remember exactly what you’re saying being mentionned about ML.

I’d post articles but war related sources can’t be posted on the forums, None I’ve seen say anything but the Kh-38ML has seen action, including .ru sources

947

You can just send it to us, no need to ping to ask to send it to us in order to see if it is deemed safe or not. That part can be skipped

948

i love kh38mt,don’t remove it

949

But does it love you back? That’s the question…

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