The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

Its most likely a buff to 70km range I’d guess. The better GBAD being added and the fact they refuse to publicly acknowledge the thread suggests that.

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one can at least hope ;*(

The lack of AASM Hammer changes suggest it also means no changes to the IR seeker range (if it was proven to function similarly at least).

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I should go and bug gaijin about them accepting mockup weapons…… :)))))

Smins going to have to ready the ban hammer

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Yes, that’s why they’re changing KH-29s as well.

Probably a buff to range if anything, Kh-38 claims a max stand off distance of 70km. With the new AA coming Gaijin will do anything to give Russia the competitive edge.

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Launch range means nothing in this context, and SPAA isn’t Russian.
Soviet’s don’t have unique advantage and never will.

It does matter in the context of the new AAs, if the leaks are true and SLM and other long range systems are coming then it’s very likely that the track range of IR guided weapons will be increased.

I’m guessing the changes to Maverick and Kh-29 and 38 will be a tweak to their seeker lock range. It’s extremely unlikely that they’ll remove the Kh-38MT or nerf its seeker resolution and zoom.

I know point locks can do the job just fine if the new AAs are static but I can’t think of any other reason.

if kh38mt and pantsir aren’t advantages then you’re playing a different game lmao, I haven’t seen such dishonesty from even cro

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Absolutely delusional take, I agree. Pantsir 18km sphere of death and Kh-38 carriers enjoying the protection of Pantsir not being an advantage is such a horrid take.

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No, it doesn’t. Launch range is not tracking range, and the tracking range of Kh-38MT [which is currently identical to AGM-65D/G] can only get reduced.

@coffee_can-psn
Of course you have a trash take claiming that me saying CAS [which includes Kh-38MT] is OP is dishonest.
Keep downplaying Kh-38MT and defending Pantsir, all you do is prove everyone correct.
Pantsir is bad against current CAS.

Even the changes to Hammer and Kh-38MT seekers would make Pantsir and by extension other SPAA actually usable against those platforms as AGM-64D/G would retain their tracking ranges.

I’m the one defending the kh38mt? dude you’re the one who voted on keeping it not me don’t lose the plot. And you can argue the pantsir is bad sure against cas(it isn’t)I’ll just hit you with the fact it’s still the current best sam in the game.

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I voted on find out more information one way or the other as there’s no third option the poll forces me to pick no.
I have zero skin on Kh-38MT being in-game or not as stated countless times.
I primarily use it in air sim to deal with convoys, that’s it. A thing that can be done using other weapons.

KH-29s have 6km target lock range so they’re already outranged by AA. No point in increasing their lock range only now.

Also, no AASM on that list as well.

Meanwhile in the video you literally posted you can see Pantsir’s missiles getting dodged well below 10km, so that 18km sphere of death claim is laughable.

If you are a drone that maybe true, otherwise skill issue.

Bro is off his meds.

What is suppression? Area of denial?

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You guys get so defensive and mad when someone insults your toys. Of course, it can be dodged if you dive to hit the deck, but you don’t seem to understand what suppression means (nor irony, it seems).

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@ItsOnyy
I’ve flown exclusively high against teams that had Pantsirs because that’s where I’m safest, resulting in no deaths to SPAA during CAS and CAP runs.
Higher speed, more energy lost for the missile; SPAA’s universal weakness against CAS is why CAS is OP.
Inb4 more whataboutism.

Yes calling out that it is not a 18 km deathbubble, far from it, is defending “my” toy.
You play Germany, killing SPAA (any) is literally the easiest thing to do in the Eurofighter, if we ignore braindead kh38’s.

death=/=certain death and the kh38mt is far superior to the laser guided subsonic brimstones dude they’re not the same

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Learn to read.