well we can say the same like a said the tiger 2 105
it’s a tiger 2, the hull exist, engine, turret face, etc. the only thing that not is the 105 cannon mounted on the tiger it self. but it’s a tiger 2 nonetheless right?
i feel it’s the same as the 38MT. sure the motor and the warhead exist, but the guidance, which, make it in my opinion the same as the 105 cannon never used in the missile it self.
but that’s my take to be honest, if you don’t see my point i guess we can agree to disagree
Well i think not, we know the size of the gun and size of the turret and it can’t fit there, what we comparing now is what is physically impossible and something what we have no information 2 different things
is this real
i c
but if it actually happen then im not suprise either
He can leave the fucking game. its release title is world of warplanes, not mudmoving simulator.
The seeker is the only difference to the other Kh-38s. If the seeker doesn’t exist, the Kh-38MT doesn’t exist.
My mistake, meant to write Ho-Ris.
And why do you think they didn’t use these equations for the Kikka too?
They are mounted right above the front landing gear, which itself requires quite a bit of fuselage strengthening to withstand landing forces. These same cannons had also been fitted to the rear seat of a D4Y, which I cannot say the same for.
The MT doesn’t use a TV seeker.
This logic it puts prototypes and missile on the same level but you concluded that missile is more fake than prototypes
Yes, because the prototypes actually existed.
but the prototype actually exist
the missiles is mockups
which doesnt count as prototype especially for something “modern” like this
Typical clown behaviour
yall still tryin to make the kh38 get removed? im pretty sure they said there not removing it. all thought if it came down to it i would trade it for the grom-1. whats better (a missile that can be dodged by simply moving vs, a missile with 40km range and thermal imaging whilst also being fire and forget and cant be dodged 90% of the tiem)
This is basically it. This entire topic is driven by the confluence of anti-CAS and anti-Russia sentiments instead of any desire for realism standards.
So when germany says “yes we made this”, then that’s fine? But when russia says “Yes we make this. Would you like to purchase some?” The double standard exhibited by some people here are appalling.
which is kinda expected when the questionable vehicle/missile is added in an environment thats already not well balanced and it tips the scale even further.
Its always confused me, you come play a game that one of its key advertising points is combined arms warfare and hate the combined arms aspect. Even WoT has its own cas analogue (artillery) which while being a bit more useless than CAS is infinitely more annoying if your losing and dont have map control.
No no missiles exist there has been provided proofs of 38ML existance the question stands for seeker everything missile to exist is present exept for the seeker. And we know that that Izd.305(LMUR) has working IR seeker thus it has same chanse as prototypes to exist
The problem is those who come here with preconceived notions on the topic aren’t exactly going to listen to reason or evidence which doesn’t support their viewpoint which in general is bad for the overall discussion as it leads to spats which drown out the actual productive stuff.
Scores on the board most of the original arguments against it got thrown out the window when the zhuhai 24 brochure dropped imo, It likely did finish testing at the end of 2017 along side grom 1 per “The Military Balance 2018” and the MAKS mockup of the ME from 2017 is likely what a finished MT would look like but was then shelved like other projects due to lack of funding or interest (as it seems the missile according to zhuhai 24 brochure is more in line with being an AShM or to fill a role similar to IR Kh-59M2) as other munitions can do its job while stockpiles last. If an export customer shows interest we may start seeing them like we have with the T-220 pod when Egypt bought some in 2017.
Unless someone goes to the central archives or gets access to KVRTs archives its likely not going to go further than that.
there has been no information regarding testing and no confirmation there ever was a functional prototype, as such it absolutely should not have been added to the game as it fails to meet gaijins standards
TBF unless the brochure listed when, where, weather conditions, fuel load and armament for that M1.5 supercruise its better to err on the side of caution.
