The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

So, let’s get this straight.

You want gaijin to do an uber patch removing every fake item all at once, or you want none of them removing?

You do realise how ridiculous this sounds right?

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Except the mans stated in the past hes a CAS hater and a Tank Only mode proponent. If he had his way planes would be removed from the game.

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Making sure people can’t call you out on hypocrisy and double standard isn’t ridiculous.
If you start picking and choosing what gets removed first, second, …, last you open yourself up to accusations from the angry mob as not everyone will share the same opinion about the order in which things get nuked.

Why have you removed this at this time, it’s needed in it’s TT ?
Why haven’t you removed this first, it’s the oldest fake in the game ?
Why have you removed vehicle X first, I believe vehicle Y is more OP and should be gone first ?

You can actually see this playing out in the recent addition of turret baskets, where plenty of complaints ended up being:
“Why did X nation got turret baskets implemented while Y, Z, U nations haven’t ? Gaijin bad and likes double standards”.

You seem unable to understand that your way of doing things is the same as Gaijin’s, where the only difference being is the opinion you base those things on, which is something subjective.

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Yeah, you’re right about that bit, I’ll take it out.

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People can literally trace my comments against CAS in general dating years back in TO threads and whatnot. I don’t even use the 38MT myself to dunk on hapless ground vehicles as that’s exactly what I’m fighting against.

I want to play a mode without aircraft, but if that isn’t possible I’d want those aircraft to be balanced between each other.

Making sure people can’t call you out on hypocrisy and double standard isn’t ridiculous.

That ship has long since sailed. Case in point is with the scimitar and fox turret rotation changes. The report those changes were based on was based on feelings and had no hard data in it. To be fair, the turret rotation was too fast and needed to be reduced and it’s impossible to come up with a reliable figure for and manually rotated turret, but the way the report was acted upon with scant evidence while others are rejected chaffs somewhat.

That is more down to gaijins habit of introducing features slowly and inconsistently, see spall liners as another example, with a dose of people getting used to it combined with bugs like the pump on the Abrams knocking out the turret drive which makes it far worse on that tank. An argument could be made that the baskets are too sensitive at the moment and more time should have been taken to implement a degradation system rather than an on/off system which I agree with but we are where we are with it.

You seem unable to understand that your way of doing things is the same as Gaijin’s, where the only difference being is the opinion you base those things on, which is something subjective.

My way of doing things is based on reality and an understanding of software development. Your way is asking gaijin to upset their entire planning and devote a major feature release to the removal of vehicles. One is realistic, the other is not.

I too want all the fake items removing, we agree with that however your approach would ensure it never happens.

he is specifically talking about things that were only a concept
like the Begleitpanzer and not build at all,
unlike the Mirage 4k as an example
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What’s this list about?

List of things that developers will remove in 6-8 years


was built as a prototype

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Unfinished prototypes given production equipment.
The rules regarding these have never changed.

That is an incredibly misinformed list then lol.

ST-A1 at a firing range. Looks pretty functional to me.

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Thanks for proving the document correct with sources I already have.
Where is it firing HEATFS?

mb didnt know about that

xm975 is roland on modified m109 chasis, so technically exist
m247 fully exist, its just garbage and it didnt work properly
t92 exist

panzer 57 one prototype
radkampfwagen exist, few prototypes was built
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it fly, but no missiles or radar, only dummies missiles

idk
the disrespectful, one of the first chobham composite armor mbts to ever exist, beat out most competition at the time, one was built, multiple turret was being built, tested firing, armor tested, mobility tests, multiple test was done, it is still exist to this day
fv4202 exist, see other guy message

afaik st-a1 exist, not sure a2
kikka real, fly once, gun was built, never installed tho
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nope, fake

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How are the Vickers Mk.7 or FV4202 fake?

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he didnt do his research

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yeahhh… they both look pretty real to me

The Swift F.7 was built, but didn’t have guns in real life, so that is somewhat fair.

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same w kikka or yak-141
begleit and radkamp are also real but im too lazy to pull up some images
just google it

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It uses the same cannon as the M36B2s that were provided to japan. Those had the capability to fire HEAT-FS.

edit: In any case, gaijin has stated for a long time that ammo options are used as balancing factors; as long as a vehicle could mount or use them, it’s open to receiving them. Some have also lost certain weapons, like the F-1 which does not have the AIM-9Ls it did IRL.

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