The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

i didnt?
lmao when

i aint denying that it looks like a 38MT or MTE.
im questioning if the image is doctored which is most likely is

ELA reveals some damning editing fingerprints

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there are irregular ‘regular shapes’ (random squares) as well as areas of differing pixel densities which usually points towards an image of different resolution being overlaid onto another image.
this is the area on and around the seekerhead

the changes in brightness itself are proof of being doctored as per the ELA definition:
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checked, again not actual valid proof

I can say the aim9b has thrust vectoring. source? brochure i found from the electric boogaloo

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then plot twist its a Kh-38ML

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Everything is photoshopped if you believe hard enough.

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objectively speaking. youre on the lower ground here and saying

isnt really helping your case nor even correct. an image either is or isnt doctored.
facts dont depend on belief

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At this point in time there’s no reason to continue speaking to you, as it’s obvious you aren’t backing out from your personal beliefs, which is fine.

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i could say the same to you and id be more logically sound as you clearly cannot object to the ELA i have provided

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Judging by your picture, even the grass in the distance is tampered with.

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That’s the sky lmao
And the outline is of the missile(s)
Not the grass

I find it funny to see your photoshop posts after you liked this post. You’ve seen a million photoshops but you haven’t seen “average speed” in the brochure.

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No where near as unbalanced

Like the israeli chaparral? Which hsd its smokeless missiles “broken”(we all know it was intentional) and then was promptly downtiered?

id say u got a bad sense o humour lol

(context: hes questioning the 38MTs high top speed especially how it more or less remains so damn fast up till impact whereas the average speed listed in the brochure is lower which means that the missile should slow down a fair bit more)

i didnt look at the stats. only the image since thats kinda what this thread is trying to find. (proof of imaged Kh-38MTs)

3000 kh38mte of war thunder forums

Outlines of the ground and parts of the aircraft itself can be seen as well. Imagine photoshopping something that’s already in your possession in it’s physical form, doesn’t make any sense to me.

@Zannafrancy12
If something gets broken it might go down in BR.
You thinking it’s done intentionally is a whole different story.

No, they are clearly misinterpreting average speed for it’s maximum one.

Poster literally asked where did Gaijin get it’s top speed of 750m/s or M2.2 from, when it says it’s speed is around 380m/s in the brochure.

The same poster tried to claim KH-29 missiles are overperforming with their maximum speed, while citing Wikipedia sentence that has “citation needed” added to it. On the same page you can find different speed values that align with what is in the game.

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its most definetly intentional, its had its smokeless missile broken for months, and then they downtier it instead of fixing it? its pretty obvious, but thats besides the point.

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Thats why i recommend researching on ELA a bit more before you make such conclusions.
Simple bright lines in such a case mean nothing but if there is a collection or a brightness in a particular area of interest. That shows that there is a high Likelihood of editing. Not to mention the squares that are seen.

If they are then thats on them.
I told u what i assumed.
Id remove my like on them if they thought that but i cant since its too old.

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And you know for a fact that bug is easily fixable within a reasonable time frame. Just as a reminder, Gaijin took their sweet time to fix much more impactful bugs.

@Armen_Lozone
That patch of grass could be edited in.
It also doesn’t explain why they would do something like that as after all, the mockup has been proven to be built.

Photoshopping that instead of just mounting it on a plane makes no sense, especially as the whole body of the missile is the same as of 38ML which is definitely real, so mounting mechanism is already built and functional.

The mere mention of 750m/s (M2.2) is enough to see they are talking about maximums, as it’s pretty obvious that speed being the average doesn’t make sense. But anyways, that’s not the issue.

Also seeing half a dozen people liking the Wikipedia source is also a worrying part.
I feel nasty by even calling that a source, as it’s nothing more than an anecdote written without anything to back it up, so it has the same weight to it as the random forumer stating KH-29 can reach speeds up to M4.5 or something.

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Images from the brochure look like there were taken with Adobe Scan, which is why it has the brightening effect on the white areas.

No brightening effect;

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Brightening;

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So the document won’t be an original photo, and that’s not a great tact to take.

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So its just as?
I mean i get that the image isnt a very good proof but would the image be really showing a 38mt?